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BENEFIT STREET

138 replies

TeamSouthfields · 06/01/2014 22:13

Just wow!

I agree with the government, if people are able to work and are not even.trying then they should have there benefits stopped.

But there were families on.there not being able to.afford to feed there kids makes me so sad........

but, the parents have a can in there hand and a fag in there mouth, aibu to think you would give up everything to make sure your children are well feed and warm?Shock

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Nancy66 · 07/01/2014 14:13

I thought the same. the whole 'get a job' argument is irrelevant. Some of those people were quite simply unemployable.

Pigsmummy · 07/01/2014 14:24

Sorry I didn't watch it, how were they unemployable? (quick summerary?)

Nancy66 · 07/01/2014 14:29

addiction issues, issues with aggression and violence, criminal records and no previous history of employment.

Dollslikeyouandme · 07/01/2014 14:31

Pigs mummy, one guy, late 40's/50's, looked about 70, couldn't read or write, drug and alcohol problem, criminal record.

TeacupDrama · 07/01/2014 14:32

I do not think the man that has been in prison umpteen times and has a criminal record that he admits to, of over 200+ crimes is really employable, realistically he has no chance, he has some qualifications gym instructor I think ( did not see all the program) but I do not think many would offer a job, ok he may get labouring work but even then employers might be wary thinking their tools / stock would go missing

MarmaladeBatkins · 07/01/2014 14:40

I can't believe, that having watched this programme, that there are people actually seemingly jealous of this lifestyle.

I wouldn't fucking choose to live like that. No way. It looks hard and soul-destroying. I feel sorry for all of them because it's through bad choices that they've ended up in these situations and bad choices come from no education. This is normal life for these folk. It's heartbreaking.

I'm proud to live in a country that helps its most vulnerable through welfare and I am afraid that these are our most vulnerable. It doesn't fit in with what a lot of people think that benefit claimants should be like (cap-doffing, grateful for me handouts, sir) but there we have it.

I did love Fun Guy and his weed-stealing mate, though. They should get their own comedy series. Grin

Dollslikeyouandme · 07/01/2014 14:48

I agree marmalade, I promised myself I wouldn't even watch it, but just did on 4od, glad I did to be honest, didn't see lavish lifestyles, ok I saw one big telly, an iPhone and a few fags, and it was shown how some things were being funded by theft or by getting into rent arrears.

I just saw a bunch of people mainly to be pitied for their bad choices and lack of aspiration.

Personally I'd rather just leave them be than take what little they gave and see them fall deeper into a life of crime, which is all that would happen.

MarmaladeBatkins · 07/01/2014 15:01

Like I said last night; I'd rather have my small telly and my life than a big telly and their life! :(

bongobaby · 07/01/2014 15:08

I have a huge flat screen TV, and another two upstairs, Xbox,two iPhones, moderate car and I'm on benefits.
All of these items I worked bloody hard for doing ten hours a day work five days a week to buy. Then I lost my job and fell into depression. Watching this program made me feel hugely like a second class citizen because I need help from the state. Life is not bloody easy being in benefits at all. But I make the best of what it provides for me and my child for the moment. We do not all live like the people shown on this horrid program. The government is doing a good job in conditioning folk to believe this. Why don't they help instead of hinder for a change.

Weelady77 · 07/01/2014 15:14

Bongobaby don't ever feel like that you know your circumstances and you shouldn't have to justify yourself!

PurpleSprout · 07/01/2014 15:18

I'm not sure everyone on there was truly capable of consenting to being on such a show. Maybe most were, but there were a few people on there who clearly had big problems and were possibly vulnerable adults.

bongobaby · 07/01/2014 15:23

Weelady, thank you. It's just that program's like this do not help people's perceptions. It makes me feel embarrassed and sad.I do not shoplift to get from week to week, although I do know that money is very tight on benefits. I'm hoping that I can get myself sorted out very soon and get back into the land of work again as I do have aspirations.

Curlyweasel · 07/01/2014 15:34

bongobaby - you should not feel embarrassed. You paid national insurance when you worked - you are entitled to the benefit of doing so. xx

Curlyweasel · 07/01/2014 15:37

Anyhoo - pretty shoddy programme, but entertaining nonetheless. I've no doubt there was some creative editing to make the "undeserving" look even more undeserving. 50p man will hopefully get some more air time - loved him.

I also found it interesting that in order for people to pay the bedroom tax, they're using their spare rooms to grow weed.... as if THAT never happened before!

mollypup · 07/01/2014 15:41

bongobaby, you are the prime example of who should benefit from benefits.

yes, some are unemployable however i think people are allowed to be pissed off that public money is being used to support the lifestyles of addicts and criminals rather than helping them properly.

mollypup · 07/01/2014 15:42

also, 50p man was brilliant! How resourceful of him!

Dollslikeyouandme · 07/01/2014 15:46

I actually know of someone quite like 'funghi' in real life.

Bit of a rogue, not scared of a days work and does odd jobs for people. Has done lots of labouring work on building sites etc, but can't read or write and probably wouldn't be able to get a 'proper' job.

I think that the other problem with people, that I find, is that they believe that if they do manage to find employment, then they will lose all their benefits and have to live off nmw salary, a lot of people don't understand what they may be entitled to in the way of in work benefits, and it can frighten people.

SoonToBeSix · 07/01/2014 15:51

Weelady , I feel sorry for them not bring able to feed, clothe and provide warmth for their children yes. £1500 a month benefit fraud? I bet the CEO of amazon can afford to wipe his own arse without the help of the 50p man
Disclaimer I am not in any way condoning benefit fraud.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 07/01/2014 15:57

We were on benefits a few years ago now.

DH and I got made redundant within a week of each other right in the middle of the recession.

We had a nice house, big tvs, games consoles, all sorts of expensive stuff that people love to complain about people on benefits having. It's so bloody shortsighted to not even stop to think that people may have had this stuff before becoming unemployed.

People who think that it is a fun way to live, and it's all about sitting at home while the tax payer funds a lavish lifestyle that you don't have to work for, have obviously never been it that position. There's no "spare" money, it's basic essentials. For me, it was miserable tbh. It was depressing.

All the talk about "the state of their houses"? I used to go through periods where I would get up, blitz the house, make everything lovely and then sit down and apply for job after job after job. After a week of that, and getting no responses at all, I would feel miserable and wonder what was the point of tidying up, dusting, Hoovering, applying for yet more jobs. It was bloody demoralizing. That would last a week or so, where my house, and my mind was a mess. Then id pull myself up and do it all over again, the same cycle.

I was very lucky and only had to go through that for 7 months. I can't imagine how down and miserable it is to do it over a period of years.

These programs make me sick and tbh the people who watch them and judge people based on this highly edited, snapshot of life clearly have never been in that situation.
Lets hope they never are, because the lack of empathy and compassion would probably have them in tears.

Seff · 07/01/2014 16:06

There are people that are really struggling but refuse to claim benefits that they would be entitled to because they worry too much about the stigma and what other people would think of them (not that it's anyone else's business).

Now, I'll admit that is their issue, but programs like this and the scrounger culture are putting genuine people off claiming. There must be more people not claiming because of pride and/or a misunderstanding of the welfare state as a whole. It's not right for the government to manipulate statistics for their own gain.

KatieScarlett2833 · 07/01/2014 16:09

Hot topic today in our office. Without exception, everyone was disgusted that our customers have been parodied like this on TV. I've worked on the front line for over 28 years and while I've maybe met a dozen or so people who are completely unemployable, 99.999 % are just ordinary folk trying to claw their way out of a bad situation.
Horrible, just like that programme The Scheme.

Nancy66 · 07/01/2014 16:14

how are they your customers Katie?

Dawndonnaagain · 07/01/2014 16:26

One would assume, Nancy that she works for the dwp. One would also imagine, that is the government's terminology for these poor people.

Weelady77 · 07/01/2014 17:09

Soontobesix I feel sorry for them too, I see it day in day outHmm

I know someone who went to private school so was very well educated (granted didn't have best home life) she never worked a day in her life and would rather spend her benefit money on a bag of smack than feed put clothes on her kids back and keep them warm!!!

Misspixietrix · 07/01/2014 18:11

Brilliant post Tantrums

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