Freedom of speech

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Did anyone see BB last night?

I dont know their names but a man was telling a woman that he didnt agree with people being Gay because its written in the Bible that its not allowed. He got a verbal warning from BB for this conversation.
AIBU to think that we have freedom of speech in this country and as he was only stating that HE didnt agree with it they should not have given him a VW.

Freedom of speech doesn't cover being racist,homophobic or sexist. For which we should all be eternally grateful

I disagree. I think FOS should cover these things.

Total FOS is sacrosanct in the USA. I wish we had similar rights protected in a constitution.

I agree redshifter

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I agree redshifter and Ubik1.

It is "his" opinion based on his faith. He should be allowed to voice his opinion.
If a gay guy said I don't believe in being heterosexual would there be such uproar?

Censure quickly turns into censor.

In reality it is just another form of censor.

Does FOS in the US really mean that you can say what you want on a TV show without them having any editorial control?

I'm astonished that people here think we should all be free to go round expressing racist or homophobic hatred. If you saw a group of people on the street shouting at a black person something like "Go home [N word), f* off you (W word)", with the black person being visibly upset, would you seriously be thinking "Great, freedom of speech in action"?

"If a gay guy said I don't believe in being heterosexual would there be such uproar?"

If he said it could be "cured" then yes, probably.

So all of you happy with it, happy to have someone come into your home and say nasty shit then and not have the right to ask them to stop or leave?

Censure quickly turns into censor.
In reality it is just another form of censor.

Rubbish. It's the flip side of freedom of speech. Someone can express a homophobic viewpoint; someone else can strongly criticize it.

Does FOS in the US really mean that you can say what you want on a TV show without them having any editorial control?

No, not at all. Sinead O'Connor had pretend that she wasn't actually going to rip up the Pope's photograph live on air. Editorial control will be applied as befits the political persuasions of the broadcaster/producer.

I guess it's something of an irony that Big Brother purports to be about exposing the bare (and often distasteful) bones of its participants.

Murderofgoths, funny you should say that considering your username.

MurderOfGoths

Maybe it is that Voltaire thing.

I feel very strongly about this.

Ifmsomeone said on BB that they thought child rape was a good thing. I would like to think I would defend with my life their right to say it. And wouldn't want them even censured

If a gay guy said I don't believe in being heterosexual would there be such uproar?

What uproar? Holyfield was just asked not to carry on like that. And I'm quite sure that a gay person saying that would receive the same response. But, be realistic, how many gay people have you ever come across saying anything like that?

And he didn't say he didn't believe in being homosexual, he said it was wrong and abnormal, a matter of choice, and something which gay people should want to be "cured" of.

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Having a "faith" doesn't give anybody the excuse to be a cunt.

Simple concept... if you don't like equal marriage for gay people, don't marry someone of the same sex as you. If you don't think homosexuality is wrong, don't sleep with anyone of the same gender as you. Don't like abortion, don't have one. No sex before marriage, don't have any.

If he had said women are wrong and every one should have a sex change or that Black people are wrong and they should all have skin bleach, I think we would all understand the stupid, illogical, nasty, bigoted shot that this is.

Also sexuality is real and cannot be changed.

Having a faith is making the active choice to believe in the big man in the sky. And occasionally use said faith to be unpleasant and bigoted.

I know whose feelings I consider more important.

Redshifter, people are entitled to say homophobic things in the privacy of their own homes or indeed other people's homes, if said people allow it. Said people are however perfectly free to say they won't allow it. The same applies to commercial companies putting out public TV programmes.

And wouldn't want them even censured
seriously? You think someone should be able to say something like that and not be criticized or disapproved of?

I second Errol's .

Exactly MrsTP

Nennypops

I think we should have the right to hear what that person has to say.

Radical, I know.

I think freedom if speech us more important than the tight not yo be offended.

Sorry the is my own.

I think we would all understand the stupid, illogical, nasty, bigoted shot that this is.

I agree. He is. But I defend his right to express his ridiculous and disgusting beliefs.

I think we should have the right to hear what that person has to say

You are - if he wants to say more on the subject he can elsewhere.