To be astonished at the stupidity of the Smart Swap campaign?

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Yes, we all need to eat better and move about more but I've just seen the advert for swapping sugar loaded fizzy drinks for sugar free ones.

Am I alone in thinking it's one of the most ill thought of things they've come up with yet?

The sweetners in sugar free drinks are dangerous. The sugar free stuff usually advertised is most of the time, worse than the full fat stuff.

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I can see why they are doing this as it is a huge problem in this country, but I don't thing they've thought this through at all.

alcohol isn't wholly bad for you either.

i don't think the 'average joe' needs lecturing on food AT ALL personally. it's fucking food! jesus! the sooner we stop wasting money and energy treating it like a moral crusade or seeing ourselves as nutrition missionaries to the proles the better.

incidentally i've read some awful things about soya and health, not to mention how devastating it's growth is to ecosystems so anyone reading this and thinking they'll switch to soya products might want to do a bit of research first.

Numpty, food can kill you. People do need education on food. Not educating people on food costs money too. (And why are you equating soya to a healthy diet?)

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A lot of people do not know what a healthy balanced diet looks like. At least give them the information so they can eat well if they choose to and possibly save the NHS some money.

Portion control would be a better campaign as I think most people really don't understand this.
DS was declared overweight in the school weighing programme and I was sent a change 4 life leaflet suggesting changes to his diet. It generally advocated a slightly less healthy diet than DS already has.
DS is a ridiculously skinny 5yo who is most definitely not overweight which if the programme had any human input would have picked up.
The problem is that these public health campaigns are aimed at hitting the very bottom levels of understanding/diet/education so seem stupid when applied to average or better.

mete where did I say that people with severe allergies to dairy was funny?

Pretty much any food that isn't eaten straight from the field is chemically altered. Food, and everything else, including you, is made of 100% chemicals. Any 'expert' who starts tutting and going "ooooo chemicals" really shouldn't be awarded any credibility.

BTW if anybody wants to link any credible studies that prove aspartame is unsafe please feel free (ps - there aren't any).

Are there any credible studies regarding the insulin response to sugar free drinks?

Weetabixwife What does your husband think about the report from the European Food Safety Authority showing that Aspartame is safe?

yes those stupid poor people need educating don't you know - they're so stupid they will kill themselves eating the wrong things and hey, here's the latest moral weapon, cost the nhs money! not only poor and stupid but also selfish and feckless.

the last ten or twenty years have been an endless healthy eating public information campaign anyone who doesn't know enough by now doesn't want to know ffs.

honestly it's a wonder the human race ever evolved if we really think that even people today with wide arrays of food available, free education and tv adverts, health services, posters, leaflets etc etc etc are so stupid they can't feed themselves adequately.

Fancy some salsa with that chip, Numpty?

I think the numbers on obesity rates and diet related illnesses clearly indicate that information does need to be out there, good information. that doesn't necessarily mean people will follow it, but at least it's out there.

There's nothing overly moral about providing good quality information - providing good information is common sense.

there's is more information available and in your face than EVER - yet obesity is souring. that doesn't add up to ooh we need more information to me. it adds up to well ok, clearly the issue isn't information.

the amount of money we've spent on preaching 5 a day at people could probably have kept the poor in veggies for decades.

soaring not souring.

i do not buy the 'throw another leaflet' at it approach at all.

nor do i buy that when tucking into a giant plate of pasta the eater does not realise it's a big portion. it's not that they don't know it's too much it's that they like it and they want it - they might even have a post grad qualification in nutrition ffs. obesity is not exclusive to under educated people.

i think you'd need to look at over eating and obesity along with over drinking and drug use and the massive amount of prescription drugs being taken to get a clearer picture of why people are eating too much and leaning too heavily on food.

it's not like IQ has been declining whilst obesity rises or education has been lessening as the pounds pile on. the two don't connect

i'd love to see a chart actually that showed rates of obesity, depression and addiction plotted over time along with things like falling disposable income, rising costs of living, widening social inequalityetc.

I'd like to see that too Numpty. The people that I know who have money have the worst diets compared to some of the poorer people I know, myself included in that.

Anyone just seen the ad break in Corrie? Almost the whole break over to Smart Swap, with the Change4Life logo over ads for Asda fish counter, Green Giant and Actimel

Didn't think it would be so explicit!

So much crap wrote on this thread, it's unbelievable.

I saw it Sled. I was seriously thinking of throwing something at the telly, but can't...the old fat boy one I could have.

Then there was an ad about a fucking diet book free in some newspaper. I think I swore.

Like what Phallic?

Would you care to elaborate on exactly what you think is written is crap, Phallic?

Did someone categorically say milk is bad for humans? I missed it.

Pretty much happy. Something along the lines of it's not for adult consumption or something.

Milk IS bad for humans...unless it's human of course. There's a study out called the China Study....I drink milk as I like it too much to give it up but I'm under NO illusions.