Threads about threads...what's up with that?

[SugarHut]

Forgive me sounding a bit stoopid.

I have noticed that when someone write a thread that refers to something previously written, people tend to comment "Thread about another thread" as if they are pointing something out...surely we all know that bit as the OP tends to mention that it is.

Just noticed a thread I was watching has been deleted with the description "TAAT" which presumably is "Thread about another thread."

I understand what that means...why is it not allowed? This may be glaringly obvious, but I honestly can't see why? Or is it when the original thread gets deleted for a more valid reason, then someone starts up a second thread, which needs deleting also, and is given the description "TAAT?" What if the original thread still exists, are you still not allowed to start a second thread discussing it?

I be confuddled.

I think it comes from the same place as deleting threads because of troll-hunting.

Around the turn of the millenium, the Web became open to the masses and talkboards were hugely successful. Lots of people flocked to them to discuss what was on their minds and to hear about and learn from the opinions of others. But then much of it went wrong. There were marvellous communities but most of them were wrecked by trolls, responses to trolls, cliques, and in-fighting.

Once an online community gets carried away with talking about itself rather than something external, decline is often just around the corner.

You've been given several answers, they are all right. It's a combination of reasons.
And it really is. You can tell by all the twatty stuff.

The ones you are getting I mean

"SugarHut is sooooo cross"

I'm not soooo cross. I'm just fed up (as are many) of the general way MN is heading. ie... We shall not read the OP, we shall then drift off on tangents with great gusto, and no relevance.

I've not been on here maybe a year, and I've noticed the slide even in that short time.

Amen Twisted.

"We shall not read the OP, we shall then drift off on tangents with great gusto, and no relevance"

oh, you mean we will chat?

That's the great thing about Mumsnet. There are loads of question and answer talk boards, where the op posts and everyone else replies to the op. The threads on here are more like conversations and wander all over the place. Much more interesting, imo.

If you don't like it (and it sounds as though you really don't), you don't have to be here.

Which responses are bizarre?

The ones explaining the reasons why TAATs are deleted? I thought that's what you wanted to know [baffled]

I know it's old but I was looking for the meaning of TAAT and ended up on this, where I was quite amused by the whole 'if you don't like it, tough' 'nananana' kind of response that I would expect in a kindergarten more than a forum where adult people, mostly mums and therefore women exchange thoughts and opinions. It's shocking.
First if all, at what point did she say I don't like the rules, or at what point did her answer made you think she doesn't like them?
She merely asked for the technical reason rather than the opinionated ones. The way certain people answered so aggressively is shocking, you wouldn't talk like this to someone face to face, I'd like to think, so why the badass attitude on here just because sugar was trying to debate that to refer to another thread may be done with intentions very different than slagging people off or gossiping, and a threat maybe used as a starting point for a completely different conversation about something related... It does not strictly have to be 'rude' or 'behind someone's back'. By expressing her thought she was doing exactly that marizBoyChild: chatting. The very thing you jumped at her throat for in order to defend your right to 'chat' was that she dared to chat.
Sugar, ignorance is everywhere but thankfully not everyone is ignorant and arrogant online just like in real life.

Sugar, that was a really valid question and I for one have benefited from the helpful answers. The other responses make MN feel like an exclusive site where only those who have been here for a long time get any say, a bit territorial really.

There has been absolutely no need for the snidey replies to the op on this thread...... If you don't like it, go elsewhere..... Looks like the brass agree with me and not you ?...... If you'd really just wanted an explanation, post in site stuff. Etc.

Totally unjustified, and one of the reasons that mn is seen by some newbies as cliquey and unpleasantly intimidating.

Thankfully it's not always like this op.

Sugarhut thanks for asking....I was never too sure.
If the point of threads is to chat, people have to expect varied chat and opinions and other people's perspectives- well some of those opinions and perspectives are from newer people who for whatever reason have not decided to review the entire content of the past 15 years and just want to ask a question. I never really understand the "this was discussed on a thread last year so why are you asking, you new people, it's not like it used to be, why are new people here" attitude, but perhaps IABU and should go elsewhere and start a site for people who recently discovered mumsnet and would like to use it but are apparently not welcome

If a whole thread is deleted, please don't start a new one repeating and/or rehashing everything that's been deleted. Most Mumsnetters consider that to be very bad manners - and, of course, it's highly likely that the new thread will be deleted, too

From MNs very own talk guidelines.

I thought it only applied to deleted threads, which is understandable.
I don't think it applies to anything else?

Its the rules you know Sugar. The ruuuuules. The rules must be obeyed at all times or you will be deleted. Deleted I tell you!

I like to see a wee rebel on here sometimes who creates a TAAT purely for the entertainment value of the hyenas surrounding the OP with their 'rules' and 'if you don't like it yada yada' comments. You know these are the kind of people who need to seriously unclench their arses. Great when an OP roundly tells them to fuck right off. I kind of think that MN HQ are quite capable of moderating this site themselves.

Zombie thread people

Zombie thread! Now you tell us (and now I notice)! I was a lurker for about two years before I decided I wanted to join in. It was the Tiny Elderly Korean Lady thread that swung it for me, when I realised that MN really was a place with more carers than slaggers. The tone seems much more friendly nowadays and the aggressive posters are lumbering about om the edge of extinction or grumbling amongst themselves. Thanks to good monitoring, maybe?

I realise this is a very old thread, but what is the slap site?

I know it's a zombie thread but in my view the person who behaved like someone in a kindergarten was the OP.

Oh FFS! Another fucking zombie thread [mad] and another 10 minutes of my life that will never return

Oh fucking Nora.

Why do arses bump zombie threads like this. Why ?

I was just thinking, "hooray,Sugarhut is back"!

Well if you'd read saretta's post, you would know

Aha!