AIBU to think a cert 12A film should not

[Gossipmonster]

Contain references to anal sex, scenes in a strip club with hundreds of the topless women and lap dancing scenes and hundreds of "f" words?

In the 80s Dirty Dancing and Top Gun were 15s?!

Which film was that?

The Internship ..

Dirty Dancing wasn't - I was 12 when that came out.

The ratings back then were U , A, Double A, and X. Double A = 14 years.

The ratings of PG, 12, 15 did not exist.

The reason I know that Dirty Dancing cant have been rated is because I wanted to go with my mates and I am still smarting with embarrassment that my mother took me for a Wednesday matinee performance after school. so not cool

Dirty Dancing was a 15 I know this because I got in to see it aged 13

The bbfc say there can be verbal references to sex suitable for young teens and brief nudity.
So yes you were being unreasonable I'm afraid. Dirty Dancing has actual sex scenes, as does top gun-not particularly graphic, but they are depicting having sex. I think a lap dancing club could be compared to a music video?
I'm not saying it's right, just trying to work out the logic of the certificate.
Doesn't sound like a film that would interest many kids anyway?
I wouldn't let any of my 3 see a 12A before they're 12 unless I'd seen it first. The last one I saw was the new Hunger Games and it was very violent-much to much for my 9 yr old who wanted to see it.

Anal sex is suitable for teenagers?

It's not anal sex it's references, which mean that if you don't know they go over your head. We watched that film the other day, it was pretty mild and shit I think the lap dancers were wearing bras no?

15s were introduced in 1985 and DD came out in 1987 so yes you were right Gossip Monster.
I'm certainly not advocating anal sex for young teens
However, I teach many 12 year olds and if you think they're unaware of it, or indeed don't make frequent jokes about it, you're mistaken .

Have you tried using IMDB's parents guide? The one for the Internship - www.imdb.com/title/tt2234155/parentalguide?ref_=tt_ql_stry_5
mentions the swearing and strip scenes.

It's written by site users, but you can at least decide whether you think they've overreacted or not and filter it for the stuff you care about.

Also as if that age group don't know what anal sex is? What do you think, they think gay men do? Anal sex as a topic to be aware of like normal (am not really sure of the right word here) isn't that shocking engaging in it at that age is obviously horrendous but I don't think knowing is that bad.

I run a sexual health centre for teens and unfortunately I know that a lot of teens are actually having anal sex .
So I am not naive.

They did not have bras on - 16 yr old DS1 was alto with me .

Just makes me feel a bit sad that this is deemed appropriate. 11 yr old DS2 watched it too and wasn't shocked and said everyone at school knows what anal axe is.

Don't think I knew what a blow job was at 11. Got all my knowledge from the Blue Jeans problem page .

Sex not axe.

It's great that kids know all about heterosexual and homosexual loving relationships.

This wasn't in reference to a homosexual relationship.

Gosh, that is quite scary, Gossip.

I can remember being about 14 and trying to work out sex between 2 men or 2 women - the practical 'what goes where'. My friends and I were mystified.

This is a great site, with reviews and recommendations for age viewing for kids, by kids.

I always check there if I am unsure.

Interesting that almost all of the parents rated that as not suitable for kids, and even a lot of the kids did too.

Makes you much more popular with the boys if you take it "through the back door" and obvs lower risk of pregnancy - never mind the increased rush of STIs and physical damage/pain. Lowered self esteem (this activity at such a young age not this activity per say).

Probably why the reference to it in the film pissed me off actually. How much pressure do we need to put our young people under?

We do use the IMDB app normally - it was fine it was me who was a bit .

Dirty Dancing wasn't - I was 12 when that came out. The ratings back then were U , A, Double A, and X. Double A = 14 years.

They weren't. Dirty Dancing was released in 1987. The AA certificate was replaced by the 15 in 1982.

Dirty Dancing is currently rated 12A for cinematographic release and has been since 2004. The original release was rated at 15 in 1987. There is also a more recent version that is four minutes shorter. That too is rated 12A.

I know it's not a 15 now - it is much tamer than The Internship IMO.

The only reason why Dirty Dancing and Top Gun were 15s was because the only other option was PG, which they clearly aren't. It was that gaping void which first 12, and then 12A, filled.

In the case of The Internship, the BBC detailed classification notes appear to cover most of the OP's concerns. As it's a 12A, parents are expected to check if they have concerns. It appears to describe a rather different film to the OP's account: "hundreds of f words" versus "a single use of strong language". I guess the BBFC must have just not noticed.

"THE INTERNSHIP is a US comedy about two salesmen who lose their jobs and apply for internships at Google. It is rated 12A for moderate sex references.

There are a number of visual and verbal sex references throughout, including a scene in which a man dries his trousers under a hand dryer after apparently becoming too excited. Although some of the references are crude, they are comic in nature and generally involve innuendo or comic misunderstandings, rather than anything more detailed. In one scene, the two central characters take their fellow interns to a club in which women dance in lingerie. No nudity is shown.

There is a single use of strong language ('fk'), which is not aggressive or directed at another person. The end credits also list one song used in the film as 'F* U'. There is some moderate and mild bad language, including uses of 'wanker', 'bitch', 'pussy', 'dick', 'shit', 'screw', 'piss', 'ass', 'hell', 'crap', 'Jesus' and 'God'. There is also a middle finger gesture directed at another man.

At one point a fight breaks out, involving an exchange of blows, and there are other scenes in which men are punched in the stomachs. However, the violence is undetailed and generally comic.

Some scene show adults drinking alcohol, including shots being drunk in a nightclub. A hung over man is subsequently seen throwing up into a bin. There is a brief verbal drug reference.

No-one younger than 12 may see a 12A film in a cinema unless accompanied by an adult. No-one younger than 12 may rent or buy a 12 rated video or DVD."

Bare breasts are nudity IMO ...

I can't believe I'm saying this, but (having not watched it since I was 16 over 20 years ago) I do know that Patrick Swayze's character in Dirty Dancing is fully naked (but side view only) as he gets out of bed to get dressed-we rewound that scene rather a lot .

Les Mis was a 12A and they had scenes where a prostitue was giving santa a seeing too being serious i agree with you what is allowed in a 12 A is a cop out imo it is just to get more people in to see the film the add the A so they have no responsibility for what children see and hear, Yanbu ,

yes patricks side butt was on show