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To give my v slightly positive CMPA milk based products?

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IndigoTea · 13/12/2013 09:42

Hi

My 6 month old DS just got blood results back which show no major allergies thankfully, however when cows milk protein allergy was tested separately it came up positive slightly (2 out of 6). There appears to be conflict amongst peadetricians as to whether babies should be introduced to cows milk slowly when they have an intolerance (like in baked goods etc). I am tempted to try giving her some cows milk based products like bread, muffins etc and then if that's ok try other things and maybe even some formula?

(My GP is rubbish btw and doesn't have any useful advice to give and I'm waiting for a peadetrician referral but to be honest don't have much hope in them either)

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OodKingWenceslas · 13/12/2013 09:46

I'd post in the allergy section for more advice , there's some v knowledgable posters there. But for now I wouldn't take any risks without professional advice.

CokeFan · 13/12/2013 09:58

Personally I wouldn't. DD had CMP and egg allergy (now outgrown both) and we completely avoided anything with either in. I know some doctors want parents to challenge the allergy themselves but ours didn't.

When DD had her first egg challenge (failed) the outward signs that she was reacting were hives and slightly swollen lips so it didn't look like much. However, since we were in hospital they were also monitoring her blood pressure and temperature and these both shot up so it made me think that there was a lot more going on inside her that we weren't seeing. She was too young to tell us how she was feeling.

DeckTheHallsWithBoughsOfHorry · 13/12/2013 10:04

DS1 had CMP sensitivity when very small but has completely grown out of it now.

We found he was worse the more "raw" the CM. So milk was baaaad, yogurt was pretty bad, soft cheese was borderline but hard cheese was ok in limited quantities.

By contrast he reacted to any amount of plain egg (and he's grown out of that too).

TiredFeet · 13/12/2013 10:40

I would wait until you see paediatrician. My understanding is that the tests are good at indicating allergy but not very accurate when it comes to the severity.

Shallistopnow · 13/12/2013 10:53

Bread is cow's-milk based?

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 11:02

He must be symptomatic of something if he has had allergy tests?

If they are all negative bar one they you have found your culprit. Why would you want to give it to him?

On the other hand, blood tests, nay allergy tests are notoriously unreliable only correct 50% of the time giving both false positives and false negatives. So you need to take all those results with a pinch of salt.

What does 2 out of 6 even mean?

My son just gets a number. For example milk is 39.1

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 11:03

tiredfeet allergy tests are pretty rubbish really.

MiaowTheCat · 13/12/2013 12:05

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OodKingWenceslas · 13/12/2013 13:07

Shalli - some bread has milk in

Faithless12 · 13/12/2013 13:12

Shallistopnow - milk roll, brioche and a few others have milk in. Mainly sweet bread.
I wouldn't introduce Cows milk unless advised to. DS's symptoms got worse each time he had any.

Faithless12 · 13/12/2013 13:13

Also DS allergy test came up borderline on both egg and milk. However, egg gave a reaction with him eating a crumb of something containing it.

Pobblewhohasnotoes · 13/12/2013 13:16

I would wait until you see a paediatrician. Why not get a referral to an allergy consultant? Also, see a dietician as they will give you a weaning dairy free plan and a weaning back on to cows milk plan.

What are the symptoms? My DS has eczema so that's his. We are weaning him back on to cows milk but in a staged process with a plan. He's 22 months though. I'm not sure why you want to rush it?

DeckTheHallsWithBoughsOfHorry · 13/12/2013 13:30

Check the labels - loads of "normal" bread has milk in it to make the crusts brown. Pain in the arse.

Ragusa · 13/12/2013 14:49

RAST blood tests for allergy are NOT 'pretty rubbish really' and you would be very ill-advised to give dairy to your child unless you had support nearby if it turns out he is anaphylactic. Actually, most children do not show as positive on RAST unless they have a true allergy. RAST can miss, however, children with proper CMPI. IF you've got apositive RAST result, pay heed to it.

If it's one of those crappy holistic allergy clinic tests then that's a different story - not worth a bean, their results.

Ragusa · 13/12/2013 14:50

PS you should be seeing a paedatric dietician if you're not already.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 13/12/2013 14:52

Don't do it. DD was actually clear for salmon then had a major reaction.

A reaction is a reaction, we were told the size of it didn't matter, just the fact she had a reaction.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 20:30

Ragusa where do you get this information from? Are yu a HCP?

If a blood test is only accurate 50% of the time, in my opinion that is 'pretty rubbish.'

No one on here advised her to give her child dairy Hmm.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 20:33

"Most people do not show positive on a rast test unless they have a true allergy"

That, is very wrong.

Anything can raise a rast test, asthma and eczema. Just raised anti bodies can cause a raised result.

Seriously where do you get yor 'information'?

If you said you were a GP it would make sense. Since they dont know their arse from theor elbow wrt to allergies and everything they involve.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 20:37

a very simply google further googling or better, Google scholar will tell you how inacurrate allergy tests could be.

The above says that you cant even rely on a positive RAST and a positive SKP test together. That speaks volumes.

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 20:39

just a blog but a well informed one

Seriously, if you have any knowlegde in allergies, you know how unreliable and pretty rubbish allergy tests are.

Pobblewhohasnotoes · 13/12/2013 20:40

My DS's skin prick test came up negative yet he's entirely symptomatic. He has milk, cheese, whatever, his eczema flares up. So his allergy consultant said he had a cmpa purely based on his symptoms. In babies the skin prick test doesn't always come up positive despite symptoms.

2Tinsellytocare · 13/12/2013 20:45

My DS is allergic to CMP if he has milk or yoghurt he comes out in hives and his eyes become puffy and itchy but he is fine with products like bread

OHforDUCKSchristmasCake · 13/12/2013 20:45

Can believe that!

flyingspaghettimonster · 13/12/2013 20:51

Baby is 6 months old... So presumably only just starting to try solids and still on formula or breast milk? Why is waiting even an issue on cows milk products? I though 12 months was recommended for all babies... I was very relaxed on what my babies got to eat, but if they had an allergy I'd have followed advice! You will be the one to suffer if there are puking and nasty nappies and grouchy, sore, non sleeping baby to deal with

babybarrister · 13/12/2013 21:02

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