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AIBU?

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DD (age 6/Yr 2) not listened to reading very often at school

17 replies

HebeJeeby · 12/12/2013 16:17

I notice that looking through DD's reading notebook that she very rarely seems to read to a teacher/TA, as there are no comments from them, just the title of the new book she has been given. I spoke to her teacher about it who said that she did guided reading every week, but that DD wasn't one of the children who read with a member of staff very often because she was such a good reader (she is currently on Oxford Reading Tree KS1 Book Band Gold). I was a little put out about this, as whilst we read with her every night and get books from the library for her to read I don't think her time with the teacher should be sacrificed, surely she deserves to have her fair share of time reading to a teacher also? I don't know if this is standard practice or not across schools, or just DD's school. So AIBU and should I just accept that schools don't have lots of time and that as DD is obviously doing well and getting support at home that I should go with the status quo, whilst other children who perhaps do need the extra time with the teacher are heard to read more often. I'm trying to see the bigger picture for the school whilst wanting to ensure that my DD isn't 'penalised' for being good at reading.

Perfectly willing to be told that AIBU.

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trinity0097 · 12/12/2013 16:24

It takes approx 30x5min to hear a class read individually, so 150min, 2 and a half hours. So 2 and a half hours when they are not teaching the class!

A teacher must prioritise based on need in the class. You do the hulk of reading at home and are being supportive in hearing your daughter every night and taking her to the library etc so the teacher feels secure that she is being listened to and is satisfied that she is making the progress through the guided reading slot. So I would just leave it and realise that teachers cannot hear all the children read all the time.

CailinDana · 12/12/2013 16:24

I always say that if you would be ok with the teacher commenting on your parenting then feel free to comment on how the teacher works. Equally if you would be annoyed at someone who has never done your job questioning you on your working methods then perhaps,think twice about doing that to someone else.

CailinDana · 12/12/2013 16:24

I always say that if you would be ok with the teacher commenting on your parenting then feel free to comment on how the teacher works. Equally if you would be annoyed at someone who has never done your job questioning you on your working methods then perhaps,think twice about doing that to someone else.

YouTheCat · 12/12/2013 16:31

She is doing guided reading so she is being listened to.

By year 2 the only children in our school who get any one to one time for reading are the ones who are very behind their targets or who have dyslexia.

There is not time for every year 2 child to be listened to individually. I'd go further than Trinity and say 10 minutes per child - so pretty much a whole school day.

givemeaclue · 12/12/2013 16:33

Yanbu. All the kids should be read with not just some, by which I mean teaching assistant or teacher. My child is in class of 30. They get heard weekly and are same reading level as your dd but in year one.

I would check again with teachers

enderwoman · 12/12/2013 16:35

As long as your dd gets phonics teaching and guided reading that's fine IMO. The teacher only listens at our school when she suspects it's time to move up a level. Otherwise my (average) y3 son has a older child or TA listen. The TAs at our school are very experienced (often more than the teachers) so I think they are more than capable of listening to a child read.

CocktailQueen · 12/12/2013 16:35

I think YANBU. Why should your child lose out just because you're supportive parents and hear her read at home, while other children who don't have that are heard in school? All children should be heard reading and helped to progress. imo.

AimeeDubucqdeRivery · 12/12/2013 16:35

At DS1's school parents went in to listen to children read, then wrote a brief note about it In their reading book. Perhaps something like this could be set up at your school if enough parents were prepared to volunteer for an hour every few weeks?

YouTheCat · 12/12/2013 16:37

By that argument, why should a dyslexic child or child with additional needs miss out when another child is doing perfectly well without 1:1 attention?

HebeJeeby · 12/12/2013 16:38

Thanks for your replies, I do think that maybe I am being unreasonable, hence my post and so am not too surprised by comments so far. I didn't criticise the teacher, or let her know I was put out, I just asked if she was being heard to read as DD had said that she wasn't. I asked because sometimes DD gets confused or forgets things and it could have been that she had read every day but had forgotten.

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Idreamofsunshine · 12/12/2013 16:38

Ds2 also is 6 and on ORT gold level. He reads to a parent helper on a tuesday and the teacher in a friday although occasionally his chit chat book says book changed but no parent helper available

CrohnicallySick · 12/12/2013 16:43

If she's doing guided reading every week (so is being listened to regularly), and the teacher is changing her book as necessary, then I don't think you need to worry.

We do have to prioritise and listen to some children more often than others, I'm afraid. For example, some children with SEN might have daily reading practice set out in their IEPs. Children with other concerns (not just reading ability, but a chaotic home life for example) will get listened to by staff more often to ensure that they're not going to fall behind due to lack of reading practice. (Oh, and by chaotic home life, I mean children with SS support, CAFs in place, things like that)

Unfortunately, the teachers can't share out their time absolutely equally, with every child getting the same amount. With 30 in a class, 5 hours of contact time a day, that is 10 minutes per child. You have to trust that they are sharing their time according to need. Your child doesn't need so much input with reading. But maybe one day she will struggle with maths and have more than her 10 minutes then. Or if not maths, then handwriting, or she's upset because she's fallen out with a friend, or got hurt.

ReallyTired · 12/12/2013 16:54

Guided reading is like a driving lesson and home reading is practice. The teacher's job is to teach reading and the parents' job is to do the practice.

When an adult hears your child read they are removed from the lesson for five to ten minutes. If a child is strong reader then they are better off getting on with their maths/ writing or whateve the class is doing.

farewellfigure · 12/12/2013 17:00

DS is in yr1 and on gold. He hardly ever reads in school and only does guided reading once a week if that. We hardly ever get any comments in his reading diary. It really gets on my nerves. But I guess the previous comments are right that the teachers probably have to concentrate on the children whose parents don't bother reading with them at home (ouch, miaow!).

Very annoying. Probably nothing you can do about it. I guess the teachers are doing their best.

YouTheCat · 12/12/2013 17:03

We have some parents who can't read - so that makes it a bit difficult for them to read with their kids. Also there is quite a large proportion of parents with EASL.

I don't see how it is annoying that these children get more time spent on them?

Bakingtins · 12/12/2013 17:22

I think YABU. Listening to my child read is my job. He's a v good reader and does not need extra help. The only kids in Y2 who are heard every day are those on the reading recovery programme because they are struggling, and a TA listens to them whilst the teacher is teaching the class. I consider myself fortunate that he's in a school with a good deal of additional support for both ends of the spectrum so he does get additional small group attention for both maths and literacy because he is on the G&T register, but I still wouldn't expect one to one support every day.

Chattymummyhere · 12/12/2013 18:12

My ds in reception has only had one on one once and one group reading recorded in his book since he started. Quite bad I think since they feel he needs speech therapy as his words do not always sound right.

Though I am not the only parent in my ds's class to think the teacher barely knows what she is doing and spends more time out of the class room than in it. Most of our class only got given books with words or read with when a different teacher is in.

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