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To think that PE Teacher Bully Paul Green should be charged with Child abuse and not just given a three year teaching ban

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morry1000 · 11/12/2013 12:48

In the Times today. Paul Green a 39 Year old PE teacher at St Thomas More
Catholic Academy in Stoke On Trent has been struck off the teaching register for three years.

In the 7 years he taught at the school , he regularly told pupils to F* off.
He called one girl a lying tart, big ears , or to one overweight pupil JCB. The 2 worst things he did though were making two pupils kiss each other and , forcing a pupil to hit him , when the pupil struck him he grabbed the pupils wrists and squeezed them laughing at the pain he inflicted on the pupil.

It is said that every pupil feared his lessons, and dreaded upsetting him.
I just hope that those small 12 year old boys/girls who he tormented , torment him when they become 25 or so and see him in the street.

This is so reminiscent of what happened to me in the 1970s, it caused me to do something i regret today (Pushing the P.E Teacher in the pond) . The point being this kind of bullying be it in school or the workplace forces people/kids to deal with it in the only way they can.

Paul Green should be going to jail, and should be banned from ever working with children again. The pupils may in public laugh about him , but the truth is he has traumatised them.

OP posts:
sonlypuppyfat · 11/12/2013 16:47

I always thought being a bully was a qualification for a PE teacher. An older friend of mine told her PE teacher she couldn't have a shower as she was on her period her teacher made her pull her pants down to prove it.

HanneHolm · 11/12/2013 16:51

lol what a STUPID OP

littlewhitechristmasbag · 11/12/2013 16:51

I would imagine the police have looked at everything and that there has been a decision are that there is not enough evidence to prosecute. 'child abuse' is not an actual charge.

He sounds like a vile bastard though.

HanneHolm · 11/12/2013 16:52

ok he was an arse but including in it " he took kids phones away" is a bit lame

Heartbrokenmum73 · 11/12/2013 16:54

Hanne - what a stupid response!

TheCrackFox · 11/12/2013 17:01

I had hoped that this kind of behaviour from PE teachers had been left behind in the 1980's but clearly not. He doesn't sound cut out for teaching and hopefully his references will be shit so unlikely he will be teaching again.

Darkesteyes · 11/12/2013 17:12

What an absolute fucking bastard. I too experienced similar "joys" of school PE in the 80s. Always picked last and then it was "oh god you have dark ,we had her last week , No you have her etc. It did backfire on them though. One sports day they were one short and asked me to be in the relay I said "no because you will only moan and have a go at me when i am not fast enough.. "oh no we wont" they insisted. Well i knew that was bollocks So i dug my heels in and refused. To this day i am glad that i stood up for myself. There was the time i got so fed up that during yet another lesson when they were arguing about whose turn it was to have me on their team i walked out telling the pe teacher to do her bloody job properly and i sat in the changing room refusing to participate. I skived the lesson from then on. I am now 40 and i have only really discovered the joy of excesrsise this year Its taken me this long.
Totally agree that if this was any other subject the teacher would be in deep shit. Was anybody watching the comedy series Big School earlier this year. Philip Glenister played a PE teacher like this and it was played for laughs but the fact that this stereotype was presented in a comedy series in 2013 shows that ppl know damn well that these "practices" still go on. Not good enough. This arsehole SHOULD be prosecuted.

throwingstones · 11/12/2013 17:13

The head teacher needs sacking and charging with abuse too. He should have done something about this ages ago.

Darkesteyes · 11/12/2013 17:16

YY throwing.

LadyBeagleEyes · 11/12/2013 17:22

The same for me as so many other posters on this thread.
My PE teacher only gave a shit about those who were good at it, I don't remember having a 'lesson' as such, it was just assumed we knew how to play hockey or climb a rope.
I was shit at PE and my memories of it are only bad ones, I started skiving from 3rd year onwards and nobody bothered, I think they were glad they didn't have to do any teaching, and could just work with the ones that were good at it.
Can't believe this is still going on today.

BelaLugosisShed · 11/12/2013 17:22

The vile PE teacher at my ( also Staffordshire) comp married one of the pupils as soon as she turned 16! ( @1980) he was a bully who had it in for anyone who wasn't good at sport. Crotty was his name.

bassetfeet · 11/12/2013 17:28

This thread brings up horrible memories of being bullied by PE teachers in the 60s. Awful sadists who loved to humiliate . So sad for those who have suffered also. I loathe sport in any form now. It shouldnt be like that .

I was saved from the ritual sneering by a lovely English teacher [was more bookish] who arranged for me to sort the school library on PE lesson days. Thank goodness for her kindness.

defineme · 11/12/2013 17:30

I was useless at PE, but was never bullied by teachers and I feel they did make an effort to introduce a wider range of stuff that might appeal like aerobics.

I was repeatedly humiliated by my art teacher because I had pretty friends and he explicitly told me how he felt my looks and clothes contrasted with theirs, if I saw him in the street now I'd tell him to piss off. I was quite good at art too.

The PE department where I work are outstanding, I see kids of all shapes and abilities having their esteem raised by inclusive, imaginative and enthusiastic teachers. Perhaps it's because it's a specialist sports college and sport is held in high regard?

I think he should have been struck off permanently. Those poor kids.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 11/12/2013 17:32

The best thing about them, as I discovered, was that if I absented myself they would turn a blind eye and write hilarious bogus reports at the end of terms.

Two girls in my class skipped every single PE lesson in our last year. We got to choose ice skating or bowling. The two girls and me chose bowling. We were expected to make our own way there and sign a register at the front desk. I loved bowling and didn't miss it once. End of year reports came - one of the two girls got all A's for PE - despite not going bowling once - even for attendance! I got a column of E's. It totally fucked my whole report for the year. Nobody would speak to the PE teacher concerned or get my report change. Comparing reports across the year group, it was obvious he had sat down with the register and randomly assigned a grade to each person. I wonder how many other, otherwise great reports, he screwed over with his lazy-arse attitude.

LadyRainicorn · 11/12/2013 17:42

I've had one good pe teacher - she actually seemed to give a shit about us as people, explained about techniques etc, let us (asked us actually) to wear trackkies instead of the uniform pe knickers in the winter cos it would be too cold otherwise, encouraged us to try everything we could.

Every other one was either evil or beyond dappy (we several terms of 'interpretive' dance)

And Paul Green should be prosecuted for assault

OpalTourmaline · 11/12/2013 17:42

Sounds like he got you and the other girl mixed up on the report Heartbroken

soul2000 · 11/12/2013 17:44

STOKE SENTINEL 11 TH DECEMBER 2013

                     " CARLITO"


HE was disgusting, he only ever picked on the students who wouldn't
say "NOTHING BACK" luckily he never said anything to me, but i have 
seen him many times picking on other students. He also pinned my
older sister against the wall by her shoulder and bruised her, he pinned
a student in my year up by the  throat.

 Im glad he's gone he's one vile nasty disgusting piece of work.


I thought i post this account from today's  Stoke on Trent Sentinel.
Salmotrutta · 11/12/2013 17:44

I had a mix of PE teachers -some good and some bad.

They did tend to all have one thing in common though - they were all very bossy!

The particular teacher from the OP should be permanently removed from the teaching register with no right of appeal.

And one last thing - I don't think the OP was stupid HanneHolm. Hmm

If I wanted an example of a stupid post there's a far better one on this thread - as has been pointed out already...

MrsApplepants · 11/12/2013 17:48

This sadly doesn't surprise me. Every PE teacher, I have ever met, bar none, has been a prick.

I'm sure there are good PE teachers somewhere, but the rotten apples need to be got rid of.

MrsApplepants · 11/12/2013 17:48

This sadly doesn't surprise me. Every PE teacher, I have ever met, bar none, has been a prick.

I'm sure there are good PE teachers somewhere, but the rotten apples need to be got rid of.

cricketballs · 11/12/2013 18:10

MrsApplepants - how many PE teachers have you met? Professionally I have never met a PE teacher like this

soul2000 · 11/12/2013 18:37

Its truly appalling that the first problems with him seem to be in about 2006
yet it took to 2011 for him to be suspended.

This brings up a few issues. Were his fellow teachers frightened of him, because surely they must have either witnessed some of his behaviour or heard snippets from pupils.

It has got to be in all teachers interests that teachers like Green are out of teaching. One thing that no one as mentioned, is that Greens behaviour makes teachers more prone to suspension from spurious allegations from troubled pupils.

This incident is liable to create a situation where Heads and SLTs will suspended teachers for so much as a whisper from a pupil.

Why did his fellow teachers allow him to get away with this behaviour for five years.

The story is even worse than first reported with racist connatations involved ( HE GOT AWAY WITH THAT) . It also seems that in one incident he threw a tennis ball at another teacher, it missed her and hit a student in the head. The student threw the ball back at him , he then grabbed the student by the throat in full view of the other teacher, yet the teacher did not report a serious incident.

This is quite a decent school as well, which makes it even worse.

58% A* to C ..
8% AAB at A Level (THAT IS BETTER THAN SOME GRAMMAR SCHOOLS)

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IncompleteSenten · 05/09/2022 09:24

I'm so sorry to hear that, xld.

If you need a listening ear and some support maybe consider starting a thread in relationships.

This is a 'zombie' thread from nearly a decade ago and your post is likely to be missed. 💐