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AIBU?

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to tell school that I think they are charging parents too much for Christmas concert tickets & cup cakes?!

65 replies

monkina · 06/12/2013 16:48

I have twin 3 year old daughters who started nursery in a local primary school this year.

We have their Christmas Concert next week, for which I was asked to provide 2 Angel costumes.

My gripe is that they are charging parents £3 per person to attend, plus £2 for a photo of child &another £2 for the programme.

This comes after the Christmas Fayre last week at which we were charged £1 admission, and a tiny home made cup cake or small slice of cake cost £1 a piece!

To some people that might not sound a lot, but I do not live in an affluent area, and I know that myself and some of the parents do not have a lot of disposable income.

I know that some of the parents at the school are considerably better off than the rest of us, and this includes some of those on the Governing Body.

I told the nursery class teacher that I thought £3 per ticket on top of having to provide costumes was too much, and she was apathetic ( she is a very young supply teacher - maybe irrelevant, but a fact!) just said nothing to do with us, tell the office) so I went home and e-mailed the governing body a letter including the following:

"To my mind, the Christmas Concert at *** seems to have become more about raising money for the school than about the pleasure of watching the children have their first school concert, and I find that incredibly sad and depressing.

Since joining the school in Easter 2013 we have supported the school by attending the Summer Fayre, and more recently, the Christmas Fayre. At the Christmas Fayre we were charged the £1 entrance fee (for adults), and once inside I found everything to be over-priced. I bought 3 small cup-cakes for my daughters and I , and I was unpleasantly surprised when the lady selling them asked me for £3! I paid, but to me, £1 per (very small cupcake) is excessive and unreasonable. 50p per cake would have been a much more reasonable amount. I also do not agree with a £1 entrance fee - if you really want to charge, again, 50p would have been more appropriate.

* is not an affluent borough, and in the current economic climate many families are struggling to manage on whatever income they have. I would just ask that as Governors you re-consider the amounts £ that you are deciding to charge parents at "fund-raising" events.

Not all families have enough disposable income to waste it, not everyone has a "middle-class" life-style, and I would appeal to you as Governors to please re-think your community values and try and put families first and profit second.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I look forward to your considered response."

So, what do you think?...am I right to stand up for myself and other parents on lower incomes? Or will they think I'm just a nutty Scrooge?

PS- I know that schools have to try and raise extra funds, and I support that - I'm just not in favour of over-charging parents who can't easily afford it.

OP posts:
DamnBamboo · 06/12/2013 16:50

Is it a donation or an actual charge? Am asking because what if somebody has no money and can't scrimp it together - will they not see their child in the play?

monkina · 06/12/2013 16:52

its an actual charge - if you don't buy a £3 ticket each you won't be allowed in.

OP posts:
MerryMarigold · 06/12/2013 16:52

Yabu. That's ridiculous. We live in a deprived area. School provide costumes otherwise half the kids would not be able to take part. School events are free. Things like Christmas disco and summer fair are organized by PTA and are charged but cheap, but they are an optional leisure activity not like watching kids assembly or nativity.

MerryMarigold · 06/12/2013 16:52

Yabu. That's ridiculous. We live in a deprived area. School provide costumes otherwise half the kids would not be able to take part. School events are free. Things like Christmas disco and summer fair are organized by PTA and are charged but cheap, but they are an optional leisure activity not like watching kids assembly or nativity.

SantanaLopez · 06/12/2013 16:53

I think YABU to complain about the photo, the cupcake and the programme- they're really just extras, they cost money and you don't have to buy them.

£3 a ticket YANBU.

Jbck · 06/12/2013 16:53

YANBU, DDs show was the same price which is ridiculous.

Christmas Fayre - lady at the door said £1 for adults 50p for children, I gave her £2 for me and DD2 she said thanks, and gave me no change. I was too shocked and embarrassed to say where's my 50p?

LouiseAderyn · 06/12/2013 16:54

I agree with you and think a school nativity is not a fundraising event and that parents should not be charged to see their own kids performance.

Some schools do forget that not everyone is well off and they have a tendency to treat parents lije cash cows.

Well done for objecting.

Floggingmolly · 06/12/2013 16:54

The events are fundraisers, which is why they do it. If someone was in genuine dire straits and couldn't stump up the £3, I'm sure they'd waive the charge.

The cupcake thing; well someone is prepared to pay or they wouldn't charge that much, and it's hardly compulsory anyway.

MerryMarigold · 06/12/2013 16:54

Sorry I meant yaNotbu!!!

DamnBamboo · 06/12/2013 16:55

Then YANBU. The tickets should be by donation only and those who want to pay, will. The cakes and photo's however... the school has to raise some money somehow.

Good for you for objecting.

JanePurdy · 06/12/2013 16:56

Doubt it's the Governors, isn't it the PTA?

justkeeponsmiling · 06/12/2013 16:57

YANBU. Our school charges the same, that's also after I had to supply two costumes for my DCs. On top of that they do the same concert THREE TIMES, and if their dad and I want to be there for all of them for the sake of DCs it will cost us £18. I'm so peed off! If they think I'm buying a raffle ticket this year they can shove off!

Kewcumber · 06/12/2013 16:57

our school is charging for carol concert and nativity plays for the first time £2. But that pays for all costumes, licences etc. which I think is OK - budgets are tight this year.

School fair is £3 per child but that includes pizza and an entertainer (parents free)

Don;t buy the cupcakes or cakes if you don't want to and £2 per photo is a bargain (assuming they are a reasonable quality).

£2 per programme is taking the piss though!

MerryMarigold · 06/12/2013 16:57

It's still ridiculous even if school would waive the charge. It's putting people in a position where they need to beg to be allowed to go in free. Not good.

Kewcumber · 06/12/2013 16:58

I doubt the PTA organises the christmas concerts.

But they probably arrange the school fair.

TeenAndTween · 06/12/2013 16:58

I think you are muddling things up which won't help your case.

The Fairs are likely to have been organised by a PTA. In which case your gripes on the pricing need to go to them. The governing body will have nothing whatsoever to do with this. Or get involved with the PTA and have your say. It is really annoying as a PTA committee member to have people moaning to the wrong people, and not coming and having your say at the PTA meetings or AGM, or on questionaire slips.

For the Christmas concert, the prices will be set by the school. Personally I think tickets for this should be free, or maybe first 2 tickets free then charge for subsequent tickets.

I would have less concern re price for programme and photo as they are optional items. (Through they seem unnecessarily steep to me).

In summary YABU to moan to the wrong people.

mrsseed · 06/12/2013 16:59

blimey, overpriced.
At our fayre its 50p a cake for a good size, 30p for smaller.
Our concerts are free with a donation bucket on exit to go to a charity that the kids taking part choose.
And ours is a mainly middle class area.
I like the letter by the way

AllDirections · 06/12/2013 16:59

YANBU

If DD3's school charged for the show there would be very few parents there. Same goes for the fayres.

You are correct in thinking that everything else was overpriced! They'll soon learn when people don't pay for the extras. I would have paid for the show with gritted teeth but I would just not pay for anything else. Our cupcakes are 20p each Smile

I think you did the right thing emailing the school. Let us know their response OP.

happytalk13 · 06/12/2013 17:01

YANBU - charging to see the play is exploitative imo

GrendelsMum · 06/12/2013 17:02

I think you were quite right to email the school if you had concerns.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 06/12/2013 17:02

A primary school near me (not my DDs) was charging parents and any siblings £2.50 into the christmas fair.

Our school isn't, its also providing the costumes for the nativity, and there's no charge in.

YANBU. I am sick of the notes every week. Halloween cost us £20, not including her costume as we would have bought that anyway. The disco and tuck shop, non uniform days, competitions, sending in sweets for the party etc.

So far we have paid for the panto trip, a visit to santa (and he's going to be at the fair too Hmm ) christmas dinner, the raffle, I am donating to the fair and there will no doubt be charges for non uniform day too.

I wish that schools would sit down and see that it might “only“ be £2 but a £2 here and a £3 there soon adds up. And we can't not do the stuff because I don't want her feeling left out.

Kewcumber · 06/12/2013 17:02

I can't make a cupcake for 20p barely.

I know this is off topic but it always winds me up to make decent cakes to discover them being sold off for 50p. I'd rather donate the money than waste my time making good quality stuff which is virtually given away.

SunshineMMum · 06/12/2013 17:03

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MerryMarigold · 06/12/2013 17:03

It's still ridiculous even if school would waive the charge. It's putting people in a position where they need to beg to be allowed to go in free. Not good.

CreamyCooler · 06/12/2013 17:13

I don't think you are being unreasonable about the £3 ticket but I wouldn't complain about the cupcake and programme as they are 'extra' things. My DS's are at secondary schools now but when they were at primary school they could only do refreshments by donation as they didn't have the certificate or whatever to sell food.
£3 plus providing the costume is definitely not good.