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AIBU?

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to be confused about cardboard boxes?

11 replies

alranson · 03/12/2013 16:53

This is surreal & I can't believe things have suddenly spiralled like this.

Last winter I used a moving company for the first time ever, because I was 6mo pregnant (and single) & moving house all by myself was Too Much. The chief moving guy on the day was a helpful Kiwi who worked his ass off, and I gave his team a huge tip for their effort. He explained that he was setting up his own moving service and gave me his card for my next move.

For various reasons I (plus new baby) had to move again this September so I booked the guy directly this time. All went smoothly, and I gave his team another good tip.

As he was leaving, he said that he had to move house himself in two weeks' time and asked if I would give him any of my boxes. Although I wasn't going to unpack much because I had builders starting the next day, I wanted to help him out. So I did as much as I could and he came back the following day to collect about 15 boxes, and then the following week to take another 20 or so.

Cut to two months later. The guy texted me out of the blue to say could he come and get the rest of my boxes - but only the ones in good condition (he left behind several last time on the ground they were apparently not in good enough condition for him).

One hand, my building work is about to finish so I am starting to unpack the rest of my boxes and will need to get rid of them at some point soon.

On the other hand, I really need to get rid of them all, including the ones in "bad condition" too. I have about ten rejected ones from last time still cluttering up my flat, and no doubt he would reject a whole bunch more. I have a small baby and no car so it's hard for me to take them down to the tip myself.

So I replied to say Yes, you can have them, but would you kindly take away ALL of them in your van and dispose of any you don't want.

To which he replied Yes, but I will charge you £76.

I didn't reply to this. That was a week ago.

Then yesterday, I received a really horrible text from the guy, saying he can't believe I am refusing to give him "his" boxes back.

I was a bit upset by this. I think I paid him £120 for boxes when I moved, plus I had about 20 of my own, and my sister ordered 30 brand new ones for me too. So as far as I was concerned, they were my boxes, to unpack whenever I feel like, and to do with whatever I liked.

I replied very simply to say that the boxes were not "his". He replied, very nastily, to say that "as always" the boxes were provided on a buy back arrangement, ie I had only rented them from him. If I had bought them from him, he would have charged me three times as much.

I replied again to say that this was the first I had heard of this arrangement (which is the case- in my move last year there was never an issue about this) and that anyway, many of my boxes were acquired through other means.

I've now received a whole string of very nasty texts implying that I am a very unreasonable person. AIBVU?

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FeckOffCup · 03/12/2013 16:55

No, if it wasn't made clear that the boxes were only on loan HIBU and after being such an arse I would be ignoring him from now on.

Justforlaughs · 03/12/2013 17:00

Where do you live? Ie In the UK?
Do you have anything in writing re moving agreement? Did you sign anything at all? Can you check any small print?
Report abusive text messages.

sooperdooper · 03/12/2013 17:00

What a weirdo!

And his argument makes no sense because if they were on loan he'd take them all anyway, without charging you to remove the damaged ones

Arion · 03/12/2013 17:01

If they were only 'on loan', why did he want to charge you to take away all of them!
I'd send him a message stating not to contact you any further otherwise you will involve the police as he is harassing you.
He's not going to get much repeat business is he?!

DoJo · 03/12/2013 17:06

It sounds like he's trying it on - I would send him a final text saying that you would prefer it if he didn't contact you any more. Don't get into any more back and forth about boxes or who agreed what, just make it clear that he is not to get in touch with you for any reason.

LIZS · 03/12/2013 17:10

Say sorry you don't think any of the remainder will be any good to him (dust, damp etc), trust this is the end of the matter and no further contact.

samandi · 03/12/2013 17:19

That is really weird, but I don't understand why you can't just bin them. Cardboard boxes can be broken down and then put either in the recycling or rubbish bins (depending on where you live).

LimitedEditionLady · 03/12/2013 17:26

I think he wanted the boxes back so he can reuse them for another job.he wants the boxes YOU paid for.

TheWanderingUterus · 03/12/2013 18:55

Don't bin them, we put all of our moving boxes on freecycle and had thirty responses from people who desperately wanted them. Moving boxes are quite pricey, especially the larger ones.

Don't give them to him, they aren't his. I have never heard of hiring moving boxes, the ones we put on freecycle were from two moves with two companies, neither of which wanted the boxes back.

CasperGutman · 03/12/2013 19:06

Our moving company provided boxes included in the price, and it was clear from the start (in written T&Cs) that they expected to have them back.

This case sounds quite different as he's charged you for the boxes separately. I think any reasonable person would assume you bought the boxes, in the absence of any evidence you only rented them!

alranson · 04/12/2013 01:52

@thewanderinguterus GOOD THOUGHT!!!! It doesn't really solve the problem about what I do about the "bad condition" ones, but I would feel better about them going to someone in genuine need via Freecycle or Freegle than this guy.

@limitededitionlady I did wonder about that. Why else would he come all the way across London three times to collect boxes unless they had a value to him? He moved himself ages ago, he must want to use them on another job.

I guess what is upsetting is that this guy seemed really decent but has turned super unpleasant on a dime. His last text this afternoon was "DELETE" - advice which I followed!

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