or should the female in "Baby it's Cold Outside" actually run a mile at all the red flags?

[JustAWaterForMePlease]

I really can't stay - Baby it's cold outside
I've got to go away - Baby it's cold outside
This evening has been - Been hoping that you'd drop in
So very nice - I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice
My mother will start to worry - Beautiful, what's your hurry?
My father will be pacing the floor - Listen to the fireplace roar
So really I'd better scurry - Beautiful, please don't hurry
Maybe just a half a drink more - Put some records on while I pour

The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink? - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
I ought to say no, no, no - Mind if I move in closer?
At least I'm gonna say that I tried - What's the sense in hurting my pride?
I really can't stay - Baby don't hold out
Ah, but it's cold outside

I've got to go home - Oh, baby, you'll freeze out there
Say, lend me your coat - It's up to your knees out there
You've really been grand - Thrill when you touch my hair
But don't you see - How can you do this thing to me?
There's bound to be talk tomorrow - Think of my life long sorrow
At least there will be plenty implied - If you caught pneumonia and died
I really can't stay - Get over that hold out
Ah, but it's cold outside
Oh, baby, it's cold outside
Oh, baby, it's cold outside

Bah link fail. www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20Oz9Yr_So

Ewww what about "all I wanna do is make love to you" she steals his sperm!

Tbh what bothers me most about that song is that it is sooooo badly written! Woman cant get PG with her DH so she has a one night stand, crap but plausible. The song sadly isnt believable at all!

It was a rainy night when he came into sight
Standing by the road, no umbrella, no coat So a tramp then?

So we found this hotel, it was a place I knew well Nice. She often goes cruising for tramps to get her pregnant does she?

And in the morning when he woke all I left him was a note
I told him I am the flower you are the seed WTF?
We walked in the garden we planted a tree SERIOUSLY?!
Don't try to find me, please don't you dare DOnt worry love, he wont, he will just tell his mates that he got balls deep in some old slapper who didnt even want to use a condom!
Just live in my memory, you'll always be there But he will have forgotten you by breakfast time

Then it happened one day, we came round the same way
You can imagine his surprise when he saw his own eyes hate this line, a) it is crap Mills and Boon-esque rubbish and b) it doesnt scan!

I said please, please understand
I'm in love with another man
And what he couldn't give me
Was the one little thing that you can All he was thinking was "shit, forgot I fucked her, is she going to stiff me for child support?"

LOAD. OF. SHITE.

And this bit in (of all things) We Are Young by Fun:

My lover she’s waiting for me just across the bar
My seat’s been taken by some sunglasses asking 'bout a scar, and
I know I gave it to you months ago
I know you’re trying to forget
But between the drinks and subtle things
The holes in my apologies, you know
I’m trying hard to take it back
So if by the time the bar closes
And you feel like falling down
I'll carry you home tonight

Oh, it's ok that I smacked you about a bit love, because if you get really pissed tonight I'll still take you home.

Whoa. Bogey I never understood wtf. she was talking about before! Ridiculous song.

Oh and Alanis Morrisette, your song should be called "Its a right pisser" or are you trying to be clever by calling a song with no irony in it "Ironic", thereby making ironic?

Keatsie it is an appalling song!

What really gets to me is when you listen to it, there are several lines that dont scan and are obviously only written because they rhyme! "So we found this hotel implying she had never been there before, it was a place I knew well did you find it, or had you been there before? One or the other! And this line doesnt scan either!

It makes me v v cross :o

To be fair though Alanis has done some fucking fab songs.
Forgiven...Best song about the catholic religion ive ever heard.
Hands Clean has the line "I might wanna marry you one day if you watch that weight and you keep your firm body" she was singing about mens expectations of women.
"I hear you are losing weight again Mary Jane Do you ever wonder who you are losing it for" also Alanis in the track Mary Jane.

Dont get me wrong, I do love some of her songs, but Ironic gets me really angry! I do turn the radio off if it comes on, it winds me up that much!

Hahahaha I know! I remember for a while every time that Alanis song came on the car radio someone in the car would start talking back - "No, it's not ironic, it just sucks. No, that's not ironic either, you idiot."

And YES, I deeply fucking hate lazy songwriting like that. It is a SONG. It is made of WORDS AND MUSIC. TOGETHER. It has to work BOTH WAYS [mutter mutter stupid lazy fuckers what are we coming to]

Bogey this one is so bad (and I don't hate Alanis) that my friend and I used to shake with laughter when we heard it. It is amazing. I once played it for a group of students when teaching an introduction to poetry-writing.

Here are the words but you really, really have to play it to get the full effect. . I have made fun of it for so long now that I am really quite fond of it.

dear matthew
I like you a lot
I realize you're in a relationship with someone right now
and I respect that
I would like you to know that if you're ever single in the future and you want to
come visit me in california I would be
open to spending time with you and finding out how old you were when you wrote your first song

dear jonathan
I liked you too much
I used to be attracted to boys who would lie to me
and think solely about themselves
and you were
plenty self-destructive for my taste at the time
I used to say the more tragic the better
the truth is whenever I think of the early 90's your face comes up with a vengeance like it was yesterday

dear terrance
I love you muchly
you've been nothing but open hearted and emotionally available and supportive and
nurturing and consummately there for me I kept drawing you in
and pushing you away I remember how beautiful it was to
fall asleep on your couch and cry in front of you for the first time you
were the
best platform from which to jump beyond myself
what was wrong with me

dear marcus
you rocked my world
you had a charismatic way about you with the women
and you got me seriously thinking about spirituality
and you wouldn't let me get away with kicking my own ass
but I could never really feel relaxed and looked out for around you though and that stopped us from going any further than we did
and it's kind of too bad becasue we could've had much more fun

dear lou
we learned so much
I realize we won't be able to talk for some time and I understand that as I do you
the long distance thing was the hardest and we did as well as we could
we were together during a very tumultuous time in our lives
I will always have your back and be curious about you
about your career about your whereabouts

OK.

So.

Have just read the biggest pile of shit I will ever read. I sort of feel that listening to it will be like googling Blue Waffle, but what the hell, in for a penny........

OMG! "You have been nothing open hearted and emotionally blurble supportive blurble blurble mutter...." :o

That video makes me shudder! All the creepy touching and looks.

Its awful. Its the sort of thing you expect to see from an emotionally turbulent 18 year on Facebook not someone with an international reputation as a singer/songwriter!

As for that curly wig..... words fail me!

JustaWater

I read that song as him being desperate to atone for this thing that happened and think it's quite sad really

But I am an eternal optimist and always try to see the positives...

Hahahaha I know! The insane run-on phrasing! It's like she wrote a mad stream-of-consciousness essay on her relationships and then picked the music out of a hat

I had never seen the video before but yeah, it is so terrible. I genuinely do love the song now b/c it has made me so happy to laugh at it for so long.

Neil Sedaka - Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen

Tra la-la-la-la la-la-la-la
Happy birthday sweet sixteen
Tra la-la-la-la la-la-la-la
Happy birthday sweet sixteen

Tonight's the night I've waited for
Because you're not a baby anymore
You've turned into the prettiest girl I've ever seen,
Happy birthday sweet sixteen

What happened to that funny face
My little tomboy now wears satins and lace
I can't believe my eyes you're just a teenage dream
Happy birthday sweet sixteen

When you were only six I was your big brother
Then when a you were ten we didn't like each other
When you were thirteen You was a funny valentine
But since you've grown up Your future is sewn up
From now on you're gonna be mine, so

If I should smile with sweet surprise
It's just that you've grown up before my very eyes
You've turned into the prettiest girl I've ever seen
Happy birthday sweet sixteen

If I should smile with sweet surprise
It's just that you've grown up before my very eyes
You've turned into the prettiest girl I've ever seen
Happy birthday sweet sixteen

Is it me or is this uber creepy?! "Tonight's the night I've been waiting for" .......

It reminds me of the dirty old man on Family Guy.....[shudders]

Okay that's just eww.

I do like that song that goes "Hey little girl is your daddy home" etc. but I know I shouldn't.

Similarly I really like the We Are Young song by Fun posted earlier, despite the bit about how he gave her the scar. I can't help it.

What's wrong with Young Girl? That singer's a good guy unless I'm misremembering? I thought it was basically 'oh for fuck's sake, you've been flirting with me and now I find out you're only 15, you're too young for me, cut it out!'

The song currently on the Halifax adverts is creepy though- the precocious little brat girl making lemonade - only now I've forgotten the lyrics, something about little girls being wonderful because they grow up...

Giraffe - "thank heaven for little girls, 'cause little girls get bigger every day" or something. Eurghhhh

Bravo Bogeyface your analysis of "all I wanna do" was farking hilarious.

Oh and Alanis Morrisette, your song should be called "Its a right pisser" or are you trying to be clever by calling a song with no irony in it "Ironic", thereby making ironic?

Pretty shameless channelling of there, Bogeyface

Delurked Nope, that has always been my reaction to it, but nice to now I am not alone in my thoughts!

Oh I'd never quite understood the lyrics to We Are Young! I thought the scar was his. Now I understand. Hmmm.

And yes:

Hey little girl is your daddy home,
Did he go and leave you all alone mmmm hmmm,
I've got a bad desire,
Oooh oh oh I'm on fire.

Tell me now baby is he good to you
Can he do to you the things I can do
I can take you higher
Oooh I'm on fire.

I've always thought the lyrics were chilling. But I still love the song somehow.

Alanis Morrisette's "You ougta know" and Adele's "somebody like you" feel like the same song to me. They're both "Oh, you have a new relationship now, but I'm not letting you forget about me" Perhaps Adele's less angry but that doesn't make it better...

DH disagrees with me. He likes Adele