To think the family with the screaming baby...

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Should leave the coffee shop rather than try and pacify him for this last 10mins - my head hurts - how are they enjoying this? I always left coffee shops when my kids kicked off.

10 minutes is a fuck of a long time to have to listen to screaming. If my DD, at 2, had done such a thing we would have shifted after about a minute. Astonished at the number of people who think it's fine for their screaming child to have to ruin someone else's coffee shop visit. The fact that it's at CP is irrelevant.

Chidren making the usual children noise is fine. Screaming non-stop for 10 minutes is absolutely not. Ask for your drink/food to be out into takeaway containers and leave. That's what happens when you have small ones. It's not forever.

This thread shrieks entitled parents! I'm so surprised, I though MN didn't have much truck with such selfishness.

Yadnbu, op.

As it is a Centre Parcs coffee shop then the parents can take the child/ren home with no effort at all. They can ask to put their coffee in a takeaway cup!

Yanbu, yanbu, yanbu.

Having kids requires some consideration and willingness to make sacrifices. You do NOT sit there for 10 minutes with a screaming baby IMO unless it is a place specifically for parents with young children. Why on earth should somebody have their coffee/meal/whatever ruined when it isn't them who has made the decision to have kids? I suppose you might expect a lot of kids at center parks, but it really pisses me off when I see people with young babies in a restaurant ruining the meal of everybody there when those people have paid quite a bit for a nice evening out. When my DCs were babies they screamed loads, of course, and I would stay where I was for a few minutes to see if I could calm them, but if I couldn't I'd take them out. Forcing large numbers of people who've paid money to be somewhere to listen to screaming babies is just not acceptable.

Also... Were they actually screaming or just being noisy?

If it was genuine screaming for ten minutes, perhaps the child had hurt itself!

Fwiw if one of mine was genuinely screaming i would take them out, i find it hard to believe that these two year olds were actually 'screaming' for 10 whole minutes

Yanbu, I hate it when people sit their with their screaming child and expect everyone else to put up with it. It's their child, they should deal with it, go outside ffs!

Did I miss the bit where the op said the parents were sat there doing nothing?

If 2 a two year old screams constantly for 10 mins I'd be worried about injury.

I think it's more likely the two kids were upset, crying on and off for 10 mins while parents tried to calm them down. And ended up with them giving chocolate lollies.

I've been in loads of places where babies are screaming full on for this long with no evidence of injury. Usually with yummy mummy types who pretend it isn't happening, in the same way they pretend their older DC isn't running around, rolling on the floor and crashing in to people.

Other people and their kids: almost as irritating as the expression "judgy-pants". What's wrong with using the actual word "judgemental"?

Left a coffee shop in great haste only this afternoon when ds fell over and bumped his head on a step, resulting in hysterical tears. No way would I force other people to endure those screams when they were trying to enjoy a quiet coffee. I'm shocked how many people on this thread think it's ok. Op, yanbu at all.

Yanbu

I do think if you have an injured child you can expect a bit of indulgence!

Personally YANBU.

I have a screamy highly strung baby & I always leave of possible with the exception of if I'm trying to sit down and feed her or if my 2 yr old is eating and I am by myself.

Maybe it's because I personally don't let it bother me that I wonder why it bothers other people so much.

And I think rushing your child out of a coffee shop after he'd banged his head because you didn't want to inconvenience anyone else is ridiculous! Talk about putting everyone else first.

Oh & I drink my coffee out of take away cups for this very reason! If by myself and one kicks off I just scope them both up and leave.

The staff of my local Costa seen to appreciate this as they are so welcoming, remember my drink, give DD (2yrs) a free frothy milk thing (think they usually charge?) if the baby is grumpy they tell me to sit straight down & come over and take my order from he table.

I don't go there that much honest!

I get that it doesn't bother some people, but surely you can see that if you've paid for a meal, possible the only time you've been out in ages for childcare/financial reasons, it is a bit rubbish to not to even be able to have a conversation due to lengthy, extremely loud screaming?

I think if you can't calm a child the best thing for everyone is often to leave

We went to see Peppa pig at the theatre yesterday which was blooming noisy and horrible but I did feel sorry fort he child of about 18 months who screamed through the whole thing, there were at least 2 adults with her so I really can't understand why they didn't take the poor girl out.

*possibly

I think an injured child would garner a bit more sympathy. Over tired and screaming though? Put the poor buggers to bed.

I am rather astonished that so many mumsnetters think that it is acceptable to ruin someone else's coffee break. I would always, and have many times, left half eaten cake and untouched coffee when dd has been to noisy. I also consider it good form to apologise to any poor person that has had to put up with it while I sort myself out and leave.

It is my choice to have a child and it is simply not on to make other people sit through her crying or screaming. For all I know this is their brief break from their own screaming child, or a rare treat catching up with a friend. What right have I got to ruin that for them.

YANBU. It is unreasonable of the mother of a screaming baby to be considerate to others and remove them from that situation.

I know I am an old gimmer but I am often shocked at how the world has changed since my DCs were young. It seems now that some parents expect the world to revolve around their babies and children

it airways amazes me that parents allow their toddlers to scream and cry through school assemblies.

as a parent it drove me fucking mad!! once drowning out my child's line.. so selfish.

yanbu op. a coffee shop is a place to chill not soft play. kids behave or should leave.

I'd want them to leave. My tolerance for small people screams seems to decrease the older I get.

JulieMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 24-Nov-13 18:40:57
If Olivia were here she'd 'peace and love' this thread, you know?

I expect she'd actually be weeping because she knows she has got it all to come.

OP you need to cut parents with young children some slack. Having your own children should make you realise how difficult children can be.

Our twins are 13 months old. We went to a Christmas market with them today and were out from 10am. At 1pm we needed lunch, a sit down and a break from the cold. The girls were quiet and lunch was calm and scream free thank God Days out don't always go so smoothly and we can have one or two screaming babies. You cannot expect parents and children not to stop and have a meal or a cup of coffee.

Perhaps you should keep your comments to yourself.

but at the same time neversleep you can't expect others to be happy to listen to a screaming child when all the want to do is sit down for a quiet meal.