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Original poster

AIBU to wish there was at least one school that only took vaccined children

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mollymoo25 · 20/11/2013 23:46

name changed for this , although would probably be outed pretty quickly.

just wish there was one school that offered this so I didn't have to rely on other mums to vaccinate their children !

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Wingdingdong · 20/11/2013 23:54

That school wouldn't take your child though. YABU.

missingmumxox · 21/11/2013 00:00

?? Explaination needed, is there a reason your child can't be vaccinated? Other wise
YABVVU

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mollymoo25 · 21/11/2013 00:02

its not about my children not being vaccinated they have weak immune systems ( extremely weak ) I am looking for schools and it just scares the death out of me :(

I am not having a go about vaccines each to their own but I wish it was easier for my girls to go to school.

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 21/11/2013 00:04

But surely they wouldn't take an unvaccinated child in - as in yours I assume? and if they had to under some sort of discriminatory ruling then surely all the parents of children who cannot be vaccinated would be sending their children there - so it would be pointless Confused

curlew · 21/11/2013 00:08

What sort of weak?

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mollymoo25 · 21/11/2013 00:09

my children had there MMR etc , they r so poorly now that I worry about them going to school but you are right in the aspect they don't get the chicken box vaccine and others now

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greenbananas · 21/11/2013 00:09

Your children could still come into contact with dodgy diseases on the bus, in the supermarket, at soft play etc.

I agree that everybody should vaccinate if they can. My ds has multiple allergies, including egg, and the mmr is grown on egg, but I still had him vaccinated under the care of his allergy specialist.

But we do not live in a police state. If people don't want to vaccinate their children, we can't make them.

Also, it looked for a while like my ds could not be vaccinated because of his allergies. Would he be excluded from the school you have in mind?

ShylaMcCall · 21/11/2013 00:13

What about the parents? I had the "new" rubella vax as a teen and it had worn off before my first DC aged thirty. Had a booster and then another after DC2 a few years later. And I actually had rubella as a child. You would think I would have been immune Confused

It must be very difficult for you and I am not anti-vacc by any means, but please do not place too much faith in them.

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mollymoo25 · 21/11/2013 00:13

green bananas I suppose that's what I mean just a solution to it all maybe .. ok so my initial thought was wrong but I seriously am at my wits end ! .. just wish there was some sort of solution.

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Weegiemum · 21/11/2013 00:17

Have your dc been diagnosed with "weak" immune systems?

I've only come across this in children with cancer or some very specialised immunological conditions? Just never heard of "weak" as a diagnosis (I have an immunological deficiency that affects my peripheral nerves so I do tend to read up on this stuff!!)

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mollymoo25 · 21/11/2013 00:22

no that isn't what is wrong with them and it is mainly 1 of my girls in particular its her illness that has effected her immune system and also catching anything can have serious effects to her.

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Caitlin17 · 21/11/2013 01:54

So basically you want an entire school set up taking only pupils who have been vaccinated and your 2 unvaccinated children and no others. So any other parent in your position will have to get their own exclusive school of vaccinated pupils too?

I think that answers your question.

steff13 · 21/11/2013 02:07

Perhaps you would be better off home schooling?

CrohnicallyTired · 21/11/2013 06:46

Weegiemum- there are other reasons for 'weak' immune systems. Some drug treatments (ie steroids and immunosuppressants) used to treat autoimmune conditions, or after a transplant, have the result of compromising the immune system.

Shonajoy · 21/11/2013 06:51

Unvaccinated children can carry diseases to vaccinated children as not all vaccines cover all strains of the disease.

I had cancer two years ago and was just about forced into getting the flu vaccination, as my immune system was absolutely floored. I would have thought you'd have been advices to vaccinate your kids?

Crowler · 21/11/2013 06:52

Mollymoo when you say "they don't get the chicken box vaccine and others now", I really wonder what "the others" refers to.

What sort of condition do your children have?

Crowler · 21/11/2013 06:53

Also, chicken pox can be horrible for immune compromised children. HORRIBLE.

AuntieStella · 21/11/2013 06:54

So, you want to set up a school that would specifically exclude DC with additional health needs?

Nice.

Though totally possible in the private sector, if you think there's enough demand. At least until the first legal challenge comes along.

AuntieStella · 21/11/2013 06:56

"they don't get the chicken box vaccine and others now"

CP vaccine is not available on NHS. So very few DC have it (unless their parents pay - so OP perhaps requiring parent's to use private medicine too?)

OddBoots · 21/11/2013 07:00

I'm sure what the OP really wants is for her children not to have reduced immunity so diseases weren't such a risk for them but that not being the case it's normal for her to be thinking through alternative ways to protect her children and has probably seen that this rule happens in other countries.

saintlyjimjams · 21/11/2013 07:05

If a child has something seriously wrong with their immune system they're usually more at risk from all the 'harmless' pathogens we all catch & carry with no ill effects. Including the ones they already carry. Or some virus that 99% of people carry without any signs of infection. Or at least that was the case for the child I knew with immune system problems.

AuntieStella · 21/11/2013 07:05

Well, if there was "at least one school" that took only vaccinated DC, the OP's wouldn't be able to attend it. So would be at greater risk, as all the immunocompromised DC and others who cannot be vaccinated would be clustered together in a "not all vaccinated" school.

Crowler · 21/11/2013 07:13

Does the UK not require children to be immunized in order to attend school?

Bunbaker · 21/11/2013 07:13

I think you are being a bit mean to the OP. She has children who for some reason don't have a strong immune system, and therefore wants to reduce the risks of them catching diseases that for the rest of us aren't a big deal.

My daughter's immune system isn't as strong as it might be so I understand where the OP s coming from.

lunar1 · 21/11/2013 07:14

I really feel for you op, it is stressful enough with all the bugs children catch anyway without having a compromised immune system. I can't imagine how hard it must be when your children have additional health needs.

I completely understand why you feel how you do. It's a hard realisation to come to that we can't protect them from everything, I hope you find an answer to schooling that you can be happy with. Are you in an area of particularly low immunisation rates? That might affect my decision re school if I were in your position.

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