To think that Amazon should not be selling this book!!! <warning - upsetting content>

[LEMisafucker]

www.amazon.co.uk/To-Train-Up-Child-children/dp/1892112000?tag=mumsnet&ascsubtag=mnforum-21

I don't have the words - this is actually a thread about a thread, but i thnk this needs more attention so posting here. There have been convictions for murder in the states by folk following this book. Yet it is still published

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/1915841-Has-the-world-gone-completely-mad

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[flatpackhamster]

IThoughtThat Sun 08-Dec-13 20:11:29

You are still avoiding my question Flatpack. At least Friday was honest in saying that she agreed that fictional books about children being raped were acceptable.

The context of my reply should have given you your answer. I agree with Friday. I would not wield the banhammer for this any more than I would for anything else which I find dreadful.

... I can answer your question quite easily. I certainly wouldn't want to live in a society where free speech was banned. However, there are no circumstances in the world where I could find it acceptable to sell a book describing brutal child rape, that is written so that the readers can get aroused by the descriptions in the book.

So you are in favour of free speech, right up to the point where you aren't.

I think it's DISGUSTING and I bet the majority of UK citizens would think the same.

What's your stance on homosexuality? Because a hefty chunk of UK citizens would state their disgust at it. Would you like any depiction of homosexuality banned? After all, it's TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN.

I'm trying to make clear to you the consequences of applying arbitrary moral judgements to liberty. What happens when someone clamps down on your freedom of expression TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN?

[flatpackhamster]

IThoughtThat

Yup, I have read sections of The Death of Venus and that's why I can categorically say the book offends me very much. It isn't just one of the stories in the book that is offensive it is several of them. Your suggestion that I am offended in the manner of bearded men with effigies of Salman Rushdie Is ignorant, patronising and highly offensive.

Could you clarify for us the difference between your stance, which is a moral one outraged at the depiction of sexual acts in fiction, and the stance of those who wanted to kill Salman Rushdie, who were morally outraged at the depiction of sexual acts in fiction?