To point out that it's PACKED lunch and not PACK lunch?

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I keep seeing threads on here where people say "Pack lunch" I KNOW this belongs in Pedant's Corner but hey...only people who already know will see it then!

I also get irritated by "mash potato"....it's "MASHED potato" ffs.

Oh, sorry usual....got caught up in your argument there! I will get 'me' coat!!

It's ok,serin.

I was bored with the argument anyway

It's ok,serin.

I was bored with the argument anyway

I was just going by what you said up thread, Nenny, about being pulled out of the text by something that was 'off'. Anything that is before our time is 'off'. Isn't it?

No. And the reason for that is obvious.

What about fry off (as in sauter) or park up? And do not get me started on meet with, because, as far as I am concerned, the only thing you meet with is an accident.

Really, SP? Or are they just gently mocking you in their heads? Who said I wrote anything mock worthy? Are you saying I am grammatically challenged?

I ain't at all, I shunt have to stand for this.

The face I say them doesn't mean I spell like that. Thought it was pretty obvious.

It's not obvious to me. I must be fick.*

*Yes. Now I'm just fucking with you. Or maybe I've been fucking with you this whole time. Hard to tell.

The fact**

Sandiacre

The kids in my area speak MLE (so fam etc;) and they're told off for using it. I think in our area, because a lot of kids outside where we live, use it to seem cool, it's got a bad rep and isn't seen as a dialect/local slang. I think making sure pupils use standard English words for formal stuff is okay, but banning slang is wrong.

And how do we feel about a teacher being told to 'sound more southern'?

That just about sums up ofsted!

That I wouldn't know as we do not have OFSTED in Northern Ireland.

I'm surprised that with all this talk of 'pack lunch', no one has brought up the 'hamwidge' thread. Now, whenever I make DH his packed lunch, I see only 'hamwidges', 'cheesewidges' and porkandstuffingwidges'.

YANBU Pack lunch does my napper in too!

What's a napper?

Napper is head.

As in 'ya doing ma napper in'

Okay

Well it is here anyway No idea where it comes from

I think the issue with the word text is that for some people it sounds like one of the many one syllable verbs that are also one syllable in the past tense (crosscrossed, tosstossed, etc.). So for those people, "text" sounds like a past tense form and "texted" sounds as wrong as "crosseded" would.

Now I would say that the rules of regular conjugation should apply if we accept text as a verb (and I'm not sure I'm willing to do that yet. . . ). So "texted" would be the standard past tense. But I don't think people use the past tense "text" out of laziness. It's more about language perception and intuition.

Pack lunch is historically correct and not a grammatical error it was a lunch that was carried in a pack. Same place the term backpack comes from.

You can have pack lunch which is noun + noun or you can have packed lunch adjective + noun

You can have mash as a noun in its own right or you can have mashed potatoes but I agree that mash potatoes is wrong.

I don't use texted as it just never quite feels right and a bit clumsy and awkward so always reword the sentence to avoid it so for example use I sent a text yesterday.

jacks365 That's interesting; in my part of the US, it is often called a sack lunch or a bag lunch, nouns modifying nouns.

It's Pedants' corner, not Pedant's corner

Pack lunch is historically correct and not a grammatical error it was a lunch that was carried in a pack. Same place the term backpack comes from.

Not the same thing at all - you don't carry your back in a pack. It's a pack you carry on your back. You can pack a lunch, you don't pack your back.