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to think that the Haka

93 replies

Justforlaughs · 16/11/2013 19:08

can look either rather scary or really ridiculous depending on the player doing it? Just watching it and laughing at some faces and thinking about hiding behind the sofa from some of the others! Wink

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NynaevesSister · 17/11/2013 11:17

Sorry that should have read New Zealand started the 70s giving children the cane for speaking Maori at school.

I am proud at what New Zealand has achieved but I would give credit where it is due and that's not with the European majority.

Chunderella · 17/11/2013 13:32

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themaltesefalcon · 17/11/2013 15:20

I'm a New Zealander who likes the haka (and loves rugby).

Mostly pissing myself laughing at the poster who mouthed off about "Caucasians" in New Zealand.

We may have a few Dagestanis and Azeris, but they are not statistically significant...

LunaticFringe · 17/11/2013 17:06

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UsedToBeNDP · 17/11/2013 17:11

There are a fair few ex pat NZ professional rugby players at my gym (I live near to a UK league rugby union ground) and they are fucking massive. I'm frequently sandwiched between two on the treadmills. I'd shit myself if they haka'd in my direction !

treadheavily · 17/11/2013 18:01

Gosh Nynae chip on your shoulder much? I said New Zealand, not Europeans.

I think you are being argumentative for the sake of it. Acyually there was very little evidence of Maori culture in much of New Zealand 30 years ago. But since then Maori has been become the official language of NZ along with English and, more recently, sign language.

Te Reo has become part of the school curriculum and the pre school curriculum has only one title, Te Whaariki. Kapahaka and Pasifika groups are commonplace in schools.

We now have Maori TV and Maori performances at every big event.

This is a massive revival of Maori culture, and it wasn't brought about by your suggested Europeans, but by the very many New Zealanders who felt the Maori culture had been marginalised and the language was perilously close to dying out. It really wasn't so long ago that teachers were paid dirt money to teach Maori children. But you knew that, right?

To posters suggesting the haka should not be performed by non Maori (Samoans etc), you do realise that not all Maori have brown skin?

thebody · 17/11/2013 18:05

shosha, amazing link! so moving.

MikeLitoris · 17/11/2013 18:17

Usedtobe which gym is that exactly? I'd never leave the gym if i was you Grin

Sirzy · 17/11/2013 21:44

The Samoan haka at the rugby today was fantastic to watch! The Fijians didn't do a Haka but a tribal prayer thing - both were great to see as they are steeped in so much tradition.

lilibet · 17/11/2013 23:01

Sirzy I'm guessing that you're in the minority here to be talking about league rather than union. As a league supporter I've been watching the world cup (hasn't it been BRILLIANT?) and have decided that Tonga's is the best, but the communal prayer with all the players and coaching staff after today's game was very moving.

Semi finals next week Grin

NynaevesSister · 18/11/2013 11:48

UsedToBe I think you are morally obliged to reveal the location of the gym for our cough research purposes.

Quoteunquote · 18/11/2013 13:28

the Haka is ingrain in all rugby plaining New Zealanders from a very early age, scroll down for children rugby is their religion, the thing that binds all of them together,

the Haka, is not a war dance, it is a pre conflict stance, which says to your opponent, here I am, I will resist you and here are all my buddies, we stand shoulder to shoulder,we are one, do not push us. well that how I had explained to me by a Maori.

I used to go out with an all black, naked haka is very funny.

splendour in the grass

DeWe · 18/11/2013 14:21

When we were staying in a hotel with dd2's charity (Reach-for children with upper limb deficiencies) at the same time as a New Zealand team (All Gold I think, like the chocolate) were staying there. They came down and performed the Haka for the children and gave out presents to all the children in the evening. They must have raided the local sports and toy shops, had huge amount of stuff for them. Totally unasked for and really generous.

I don't remember any of the children present finding it scary or funny.

slug · 18/11/2013 15:55

Believe me, up close and personal, even done badly a haka is intimidating. It's meant to be. It's also as much about psyching yourself up as intimidating the opposition.

Shock At the thought of a naked Haka. My dad's side of the family has spawned a number of All Blacks and I may now have to go and bleach my brain to remove the image of various relatives' dangly bits swaying to the beat of the foot stamps.

UsedToBeNDP · 18/11/2013 18:03

whistles

If only I could, girls. If only I could. Wink

UsedToBeNDP · 18/11/2013 18:04

Arseholios.

That should've been

whistles

Not bold. Fail

PenelopeLane · 18/11/2013 20:10

I've seen a haka done in a place when I haven't been welcome (long story -was in a group of people representing the Crown) and it really was intimidating.

helenthemadex · 18/11/2013 22:20

I love to watch the AB Haka, its on my bucket list to see it live

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