To think that a weekend break in Europe with 3mo would be manageable without a buggy?

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(sorry accidentally posted in wrong place so reposting here) Am potentially going to be visiting people in Sweden before Xmas but am not certain that taking our buggy on the plane will be manageable - I will be doing the journey alone with my DD who will be 3 months old, and when there we'll be staying in a hotel. We have a Baby Björn which she likes going in - am I mad to even think of doing the journey and trip with just the Baby Björn and no buggy??? (and whilst we're at it, would you mind me asking 'Am I mad to even consider such a trip at all?!' and 'Are pop-up travel cots any good in your experience?') Thanks :-)

Yanbu.
I'd stick with the baby bjorn too, it's comfortable and easy to give someone else who isn't comfortable with a stretchy or other style wrap/sling.
My pil are bemused by my moby but happy/confident wearing ds2 in the babybjorn.

Pop up travel cots are fine and foolproof.

You could always get a 2nd hand or cheap buggy over there if you decide you need one. It's what we do when stayig with family when we've not got space on the car for a buggy, or if Sweden has a similar cheap baby superstore like kiddiecare, could you get one delivered to friends?

Enjoy yout trip, 3 months old is a great time to take your baby away!

I'll go against the grain and say that you should take the buggy.

When you get there life will be so much easier with it. What about naps during the day?

I flew solo with DS aged 4 months. As suggested above I checked the pram in and took him in the baby bjorn thro the airport. Worked fine.

I'd go with a sling and no buggy but then I have a few slings (with buckles so other people find them easy enough) and a fleece cover which is lovely and kept DS as warm as he needed when we were outside. He used to spend all day in it if he wanted (not a baby bjorn, one that was more comfortable for both of us).

If you have a suitcase with wheels it should be easy enough. (If you bought an ergo sling it has a pocket on the front of it that is big enough to hold a passport and a small purse).

Easy with a sling and a ruck sack instead of a handbag.

I'd just take a sling, and a big coat. At three months you wont be able to just take a cheapy buggy because your DD will still need to be laid flat, rather than sat up, plus you'll need a mega warm cosy toes or similar. I'd just take a sling and pack as light as you can.

take a buggy! i love my (various) slings but also loved having a bit of space to myself when dd was sleeping/ happy to look round from the buggy.

If you are getting an umbrella fold one for the trip (and you will use it later) you could get a big comfy cosy toes to pad it out. we were lucky enough to be handed down a kaiser one like this www.amazon.co.uk/Kaiser-Stroller-Thermo-Aktion-Marine/dp/B000RK1RB4/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1383602960&sr=8-6&keywords=kaiser+footmuff but have also seen sheepskins looking v good.

see if you can borrow a cot once there?

Take a buggy so you can give your shoulders/back a rest while out & about. Also, it's useful to have a buggy to put the baby down for a nap while you eat. I used to put my ds in a buggy with the rain hood on while out on bitterly cold days. The rainhood kept the bitter cold and wind away from him while he was snuggly inside.

I'm airport staff, all our airlines allow you to check in two pieces of a travel system, so yours would be fine, although always worth checking with your airline as some allow three.

I took dd to Spain at 11 weeks with no buggy and it was a pain, ended up buying one out there. I'd gone with just my bb, if only is been enabled earlier and invested in the sling I now use

YABU to do it with a Bjorn but with almost any other sling it'll be fine. Invest in an Ergo now but watch out for fakes - get one from a reputable seller.

Buggy + snow = not great, and I second whoever said you're often expected to leave buggy plus baby outside.

We have a pop up travel cot and it's okay for a couple of nights, but if the hotel can provide one that's much, much better.

Definitely go though!

I've travelled with two DC at this age. I would say take a buggy and a sling.

I'd check in travel system/buggy at airport (most airlines allow and infant 2-3 pieces of "luggage" like a cot/car seat/ pushchair etc) and take your baby through the airport in a carrier/sling. This keeps hands free and means you can move easily.

I would recommend manduca carrier (I tried loads!), Obaby Zezu (with a mattress will double as a cot, lies flat and is parent facing) or your own buggy and as someone said above a Samsonite pop up (although when your baby begins to crawl, I found these hopeless as it was like having a hamster in a wheel!).

It'll be fab, they are very portable at that age. Travelling with 3 month DD2 and 19 month DD1 alone was not as much fun!

A bit different, but I spent 5 days on camp with a 15wk old (and toddler) with a ring sling and moby wrap and it was fine. I had to go trudging up and down a hill each day to the car and round the supermarket for supplies, as well as carrying him round camp. It was too steep and rough to push the pram up the hill and a waste of boot space.

Thinking of our visit by plane to relatives when DS1 was that age, we could have done with a good carrier and no pram. On that occaision we borrowed one while we were there.

A connecta rather than an Ergo is better for a smaller baby. You can also get a baby wearing coat so the same coat goes over the two of you. They are pricey but resale for about 90% of the new price when you are done with it. Google Mam Babywearing coat.

I did three weeks visiting London with an Ergo and it was fine. Another benefit of the Ergo is that you can nurse in it. My baby was five months old. She slept on blankets on the floor.

We took a pram for a 2 week trip in Europe and used it precisely twice, the carrier was fine. However we had an ergo rather than a baby bjorn, which for me was much more comfortable.

The main time that a pram would have been helpful was as a seat when eating lunch as one of us was always carrying DS - but given that he won't sleep in it anyway and that it was a pain to carry around we never ended up taking it!

Baby Bjorn should be fine as long as it hasthat extra back support insert. And one of those portable cribs that ordinarily fits into a buggy would also be very useful for when you need to put her down somewhere. It's not that much hassle taking a buggy on a plane(staff will take it at the door) but it can be on metro systems etc.

Just to echo what many others have said: get a decent sling and wear her inside your coat and it's easy. No need for a special baby wearing coat, an extra large one will do. We did three weeks in north America with just a sling (a patapum, similar to an ergo) for a 4 month old. It was SO much easier travelling about without a buggy. We also had a pop up cot and no problems with that.
I've also been to London on the train for long weekends just DD and me with a sling and rucksack. Both times (age 2 months then again at 9 months) it was easy and I was seriously glad I didn't have the bulk and faff of a buggy.

I took a 3 month old to the alps in the middle of winter with no buggy. Ive also taken them younger and older. Invest in a proper sling and get rid of the baby bjorn (not good for their hips at all)

Also, so much warmer for the baby to be wrapped next to you with your coat zipped around both of you. Wear good boots.

I usually bed share for holidays but i know its not for everyone.

I would take a buggy. Baby will sleep in the buggy while you have lunch/dinner.

I couldn't have managed without a buggy. Somewhere to put the baby while you eat/have a break and you can put bags on it. We've travelled a lot with our 3 kids as babies and have always bought a cheap buggy for travelling. Our regular pram/buggy always felt a bit large for travel.

I loved my travel cot, no problems experienced with it.

I took 9month dd to Marrakesh for a week just with the sling and it was fine. Mind you I had a brilliant sling from Big Mama Slings that I could quite comfortably use for hours at a time and even breast feed discreetly in.

I actually think not using a buggy and taking a sling would be easier for lots of things, you aren't in trouble if faced with steps, you are much freer to wander around old cities with cobbled streets and don't have to worry about the baby bring jostled on a busy shopping street.

Do it, but do make sure you have a reasonable sling.

I live up in the hills with plenty of snow and I ditch the pram every winter for a sling. I have a good offroader but it's hard work pushing it through or over snow depending on exact conditions, arms and shoulders really start to ache. I use a ring sling and at that age my daughter literally lived in it. Decent rucksack as a changing bag and I could still carry shopping or an umbrella as my hands were free. Good gripping boots are a must, snow boots work well.