BEDROOM TAX related. Letter mentioning Childrens Services. AIBU to think this is appalling.

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Apparently if a parent recieves a letter notifying them of eviction proceedings they will be considered to have caused this situation intentionally and Childrens Services will be notified.
Ive seen at least 3 copies of letters like this on Twitter over the past few days. So

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Fucking Nazis.

Government policy affects private rentals too, or could if they had a mind to. Government policy affects every area of our lives.

YouArse

The person i'm talking about rent is £150 a fortnight

If he was to go into private rental , most one bedroom flats here are £500-£600 a month so gieven he receives housing benefit it would actually cost the tax payer more.

Do you not know why we council housing? It was started to allow everyone affordable housing

sorry YouAre , I typed YouArse , I don't think you are an arse

www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/26/bedroom-tax-westminster-council-defeat?CMP=twt_fd

This recent case may be of interest.

www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/26/bedroom-tax-westminster-council-defeat?CMP=twt_fd

Trying again for a clickable link.

utreas, there is no 'subsidy' for spare rooms. Housing benefit made a contribution to the rent for people on low incomes. People didn't get an extra amount per bedroom!

Interesting link, sleeping. I'd seen a brief report of the case in the Standard but not this point made by the judge: '"The term 'bedroom' is nowhere defined [in the relevant regulations]'.

So the legislation is badly written nonsense. Not for the first time from this government - see the appalling lobbying bill, which will ultimately be judged unlawful, but not until an awful lot of money has been spent trying to silence every group, organisation, charity, business, voluntary association... everyone but political parties for a whole year before the next election.

It is a subsidy though as the Government is overpaying for the peoples need so it is subsidising extra rooms within a home. The removal of this overspend ends the unnecessary additional subsidy beyond their need and ensures that tenents pay for this superflorous space or find new housing.

No, it doesn't. Maybe if you were starting from scratch. But you are not.

The so-called 'subsidy' will be far greater under this stupid system - because it is very expensive to make people homeless and re-house them in B&Bs, for instance. It is very expensive to break up communities. It is very expensive to break up families and remove children from schools, vulnerable people from their carers...

The bedroom tax will cost taxpayers more, not less, and inflict misery on the poor. It is lose/lose.

Free spare rooms! As someone said on an earlier thread, damn those poor people and their SPACE how dare they expect it,it's them and their space that has th country on its knees.

Oh hang on a minute...

It will only make people homeless if they either refuse to pay the extra or find alternative housing which fits within their financial constraints, I see no issue with either request.

Actually my local authority is one of the ones who h sent out what can only be described as threatening letters.

I was at a meeting about welfare reform where it was pointed out BY THE REVENUE AND BENEFITS MANAGER that taking s child into care in our are costs approximately 2.5k PER WEEK and placing them outwith the area which is usually necessary due to a shortage of places costs 3.2k.

Does anyone remember this was supposed to be about reducing costs? Or are there so many spiteful people out there now that would rather see others suffer even if the cost to them is higher?

Ut are you unable to read, or comprehend, or do you just believe everyone is lying that THERE ARE NO SUITABLE HOMES.

Mostly are a result of decades of national housing strategy geared towards encouraging social landlords to build family homes and not supporting the build of smaller homes.

Refuse? They can't pay. There is not suitable alternative housing that fits in with the financial constraints of people who have no or little income.

(sock if you are still around how are you?)

Finding another home in either the private or social sectors is the course of action if the people do not wish to make up the shortfall from their own pocket. I really don't see what is so wrong with asking people to make a contribution towards their own housing costs.

Right in very short words?

A 3 bed council flat/house where I live costs £400 to rent on average (a little less actually but as rough figures)

A 2 bed private let costs £600 .

You will wait for potentially years for a 2 bed council flat.

You have a fixed income and cannot afford to pay £60 a month without turning off your heating or skipping a meal for your kids.

So ut, what are you going to do? You tell us the choice you would make.

Oh I know, you would get a job. Great. Now you have two kids to find Childcare for, travel costs to pay, and that's after assuming that you get a job, having not worked for some years, over the 30 people in front of you in the queue who have recently been made redundant and don't have kids and are willing to take a zero hours 4-10 shifts job as a carer.

Cos that's reality for a lot of people.

She's not interested in reality, rhonda.

Council housing was started to bring everyone affordable housing, and it was a fabulous idea. But for whatever reason, it isn't working. Most people don't have access to affordable housing - but then this does depend on how you define affordable.

Anyone who has been awarded a secure tenancy, with all maintenance covered, and the money to pay for the vast majority of it, is not really doing that badly when it comes to housing.

Depends on your viewpoint woo.

Because personally I think EVERYONE has the right to that.

Finding another home in the private sector costs £££ more than social housing.

Plus it's extremley hard to find a house if you are JSA/ESA/DLA ...many landlords will not rent to people on benefits

You can't just find another house in Social Housing. You have to get someone to swap with, and if no one wants to swap with you, you have no where to go

It's not working because the political will is not there for it to work.

You cut your cloth accordingly to find the money or as you suggest increase your income through getting a job as you suggest. Bemoaning you can't get a job because of your children demostrates you cannot afford your lifestyle and expect it to be funded through public money. Similarly being out of the workforce for a period so long you struggle to re-enter only highlights what a foolish decision opting out of the labour market is.

or you can downsize - oh...but no..no you can't downsize because thee hasn't been development of smaller properties

not much development of any properties - because the govt cu the grant to aid developing social housing