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Why do the older generation get so uptight about trivial stuff, and will we end up like that?

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sandyballs · 01/11/2013 13:06

This is about the in laws who are in their early 70's so not really old by any means. They used to run their own company, very successfully, still have their wits about them, certainly not heading for dementia or anything.

MIL rang just now to tell me that DD had left her oyster card at their house yesterday, she sounded really anxious, stressing that DD would need it for school on Monday. I said not to worry it's only Friday, I'll pop in tomorrow or DH would at some point during the weekend.

She starts screeching in the background to FIL saying he must take it over to our house immediately. FIL starts getting stressed saying he has an appointment with the doctor at 5pm and wouldn't be able to do that today, it's a 20 minute drive to ours!

I interrupt saying again, not to worry, there's plenty of time to get it and even if DD didn't have it by Monday she could walk as it's her fault she left it there. School is less than 2 miles away, it's not going to kill her.

More screeching and stress down the phone with a 3 way conversation going on.

Why do so many older people get like this, when does it start, how do we prevent the same happening to us. Is it that they don't have enough going on now that kids have left home and they're retired so every issue becomes magnified.

It really is such a trivial thing and there have been many instances like this and some friends say similar about their parents/in laws.

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Sparklingbrook · 02/11/2013 08:59

My Dad won't drive on the Motorway on Mondays or Fridays.

He is a massive fan of the scenic route and always starts out hours before he needs to to avoid being late.

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SatinSandals · 02/11/2013 09:20

Beware- we all turn into our mothers!

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claig · 02/11/2013 09:47

It is because as they get older they care less about themselves and more about their grandchildren etc

In this case MIL was more worried and concerned about your DD not having her oyster card than about the inconvenience to FIL to drive it around for her.

As people get older, they become less selfish and care more for the younger generations, which is why they fuss more over what presents to buy etc.

It is because life is short and they realise it and therefore care more for younger members of the family than for themselves.

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thecatfromjapan · 02/11/2013 09:49

Claig, that is such a nice interpretation. I think it says quite a lot about you, to be honest. Smile

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Sparklingbrook · 02/11/2013 09:52

claig I think you have just explained why my Dad has just bought a motorbike.

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claig · 02/11/2013 09:54

Thanks, thecatfromjapan.

But I noticed it from my nan. She had very little money and didn't care about what she had but would save every penny for us grandchildren and give us presents and worry about us much more than care about herself.
Her worries were for us and not for herself.

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magimedi · 02/11/2013 10:07

I wonder how many elderly people have undiagnosed and untreated clinical anxiety, where it's just regarded as being a 'getting old' thing?

Having always been a real old hippy happy go lucky type I suffered from a terrible year or so of chronic anxiety & panic attacks towards the end of the menopause. Chatting to friends of the same age it seems to be very common.

I went to the GP & got medication for 9 months or so & learnt some coping techniques. I dread to think where I would be now if I hadn't.

I do think there is still a stigma attached to any form of mental illness with this generation & a real reluctance to go to the doctor. It's the stiff upper lip, pull yourself together mentality that many of us were bought up by.

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SatinSandals · 02/11/2013 10:10

If you read much on MN you realise that getting upset about trivial stuff has nothing to do with age!

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namechangeno1 · 02/11/2013 10:12

My MIL, (massive hypochondriac) used to travel all over the world.
Now she won't go on a short break to Blackpool (30 mins away) as she says she can't get any travel insurance!

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IfNotNowThenWeen · 02/11/2013 10:30

One thing I do notice about all the retired people I know, is that minor tasks can take up the whole day. Like, my mum might say, "Oh, I've just realised I can't have the plumber round that day because I have to go the post office." The idea of doing two things in one day Shock
She also won't drive any route she doesn't know really really well...and it is always the long way round to avoid any major roads or roundabouts. She has been driving for 40 years.
EX-MIL panics about going anywhere on here own-our house on the train for example, because "I always let FIL be in charge of that sort of thing. I just held his arm".
Both times she has travelled on a train alone, she has been at the station an hour before the train is due in out of sheer terror of missing the train..She is only 68!
I think maybe she has always been like that though.

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claig · 02/11/2013 10:40

All of this behaviour is because of stress. Older people are less able to cope with stress as they are weaker than when they were young.

'I can't have the plumber round that day because I have to go the post office. The idea of doing two things in one day'

Two things is extra stress.

That is why they stick with routines and avoid right turns across oncoming traffic etc or avoid driving in the dark or in fog etc because they need to reduce the stress levels.

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mrsjay · 02/11/2013 10:45

oh that makes perfect sense to me claig and i might be a bit more sensitive to my parents now Blush but it is exhausting sometimes but i suppose it will come to me one day

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claig · 02/11/2013 10:48

Yes, we will all get like that one day, and it is all about surviving, reducing stress and living longer in order to enjoy as comfortable and stress-free an existence as possible.

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claig · 02/11/2013 10:58

The song "don't worry, be happy" doesn't apply to old people in general, because they do worry and therefore give themselves extra stress because they anticipate what may go wrong and try to avoid the stress that that will entail because they know they don't have the energy and strength to cope with it.

That is why old people worry about filling forms in and worry that they may have done something wrong or answered something wrong, because they don't want to cope with all the hassle that may be required to correct it.

When we are young we don't care because we know that we will sort it out and the stress of it won't have much effect on us. That is why "don't worry, be happy" applies more to young people than to old.

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killpeppa · 02/11/2013 11:01

aw this thread makes me miss my pappy.

he loved a 'scenic route' which was code for 'look they're building new houses lets go peer through the windows'

he hated the thought that someone might parked in his allocated space- he nicked a traffic cone (from a building siteWink) and used to put in in place everytime he went anywhere.

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HexU · 02/11/2013 11:02

Actually I can see the stress aspect.

I hate traveling and I find it stressful and I'm not old - though I don't bemoan this fact to others but get on with it and nor do I try and get others not to travel.

When DC were very young and close together in age and I had no access to a car I hated having two or three things to do in a day - I was already under a lot of stress and having to rush round with multiple DC in tow seemed to much at times though I always got through it when I had to.


I also think there might be something in the ill health. This kind of behavior didn't hit my Paternal GP till mid 80's when ill health started to slow them down. It's hit my parents last 50's again when ill health hit them.

So loss of confidence, concerns about ill health and inability or disinclination to cope with stressful situations and anxiety inducing contemporaries and fear filled news broadcasts.

I kind of feel doomed. Understanding also doesn't make it any easier dealing with this behavior.

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ParkerTheThief · 02/11/2013 11:24

I think having lots of time on your hands can make you less efficient and organised.

During term time (as a teacher) I think nothing of going to work, going home, taking the dog to the vets, calling in at the supermarket to do a shop etc.

In the holidays if I had to take the dog to the vet I probably wouldn't do anything else on that day. If asked id say I can't do that on Monday, ThiefDog has to go to the vet A minor event would be come a major one and I wonder if being retired is a bit like that.

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mrsjay · 02/11/2013 11:27

parker my parents a re still working my mum did reduce her hours but she works over 20 odd hours a week and she is like this although i do worry when she does retire how will she cope with her day to dat life as she is in such a set routine of work housework she is an obsessive cleaner and back to work, I dont think she will know what to do with herself and I really honestly worry about her Sad.

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harticus · 02/11/2013 11:27

Ill health, unemployment, bereavement, loneliness.

All of things can induce anxiety and older people do not have a monopoly on any of them.

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claig · 02/11/2013 11:34

Exactly, harticus, but younger people have more energy and vitality and life force and are therefore stronger and usually better able to cope than older people.

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chosenone · 02/11/2013 11:35

Yep this is my parents. Both mid 60's. It does drive me mad and I've taken to agreeing with them, bot telling them things or avoiding them Sad I am going away for an easter break and had to book bigger accommodation so we can have space. They are already fretting over where to eat, weather etc... dad winds my mum up and always has tbh. He gets so wound up over the news, the government etc fair enough but equally wound up over ; women with tatoos, women smoking and drinking, traffic, people staying up late. He clearly hates me winning an argument and qill go and go! He is also always stressed over the neighbours, didnt put their bin out, curtains still drawn, got a new boyfriend etc ....they live on a cul de sac that was mainly other elderly people with the same day patterns etc....one family moved in and mum and dad said they were partying loudly until 10pm, with chilsren there etc and the other neighbours were not happy ! [Grin] other recent new neighbours include a lesbian couple...dad nearly had a heart attack !

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trish5000 · 02/11/2013 11:57

My mum didnt used to fuss at all but she does now. Things that used to happen and were no big deal to her, are now a big deal. She feels less able to cope and knows she cant cope so fusses to try and control things to try and stop any problems. Which may not be a problem to me and others. For instance, my sibling and I will get up from the table if we need anything else for a meal in her house. But she will want absolutely everything there first, because, well, it is a very big problem to have to get up and fetch something else. She sees that as a big problem, but doesnt realise that to us, there is no problem, and we can easily fix it.

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AndYouCanDance · 02/11/2013 14:11

Parker I agree.

After PyjamaGate 2011 I have avoided shopping with DM at all costs.

DM very kindly decided she wanted to buy my children pyjamas at Easter. Very nice, you say. What could go wrong, you say?

Ah, well DD had the absolute gall to be inbetween sizes.

DM had a meltdown. A total meltdown over the fact that the shop where she wanted to buy the pyjamas from did not sell DD's size.
Never mind, said I, the shop further along sells her size.
No.
We had to stand at the pyjama rack for a good half an hour and bemoan the fact that there were no Size 11 pyjamas.
It went on and on and on. I don't know what she was hoping for? I honestly think she was expecting the store manager to come along, listen to her complaint and whip out a pair of Size 11 pyjamas.
The ONLY way I managed to get her away was to lie and assure her that DD would fit into Size 12 pyjamas.
The relief, the total relief that swept over her face.

And please don't think it was down to the fact that she doesn't like shopping and didn't want to go to the other store. After purchasing the (wrong sized) pyjamas we did wander around the other store.
No. It was just that she had MADE UP HER MIND that we were buying the pyjamas from one store and could not cope with any diversion from that.

The pyjamas fit DD very nicely the following year.

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claig · 02/11/2013 14:30

'DM had a meltdown. A total meltdown over the fact that the shop where she wanted to buy the pyjamas from did not sell DD's size.'

That may be because it was personal. DM had chosen the shop and chosen the pyjamas and had invested a lot of emotion and care into the choice. It was not just an act of handing over money and the ones in the other shop had not been chosen by her and therefore did not mean the same to her.

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GreenVelvet · 02/11/2013 15:34

I think Claig's example shows the love, care and sense of responsibility, perhaps sometimes heightened by a sense of mortality. And agree with being less able (and willing! not necessarily a bad thing) to cope with stress too.

This is in contrast to my earlier conversation with my mother, going on and on and on about how "hungry" my son was because he ate all the fruitcake and chocolate in her house Hmm. Obviously I'm starving him was the subtext. She told me he needs more fruitcake and chocolate. They can go on and on, God, or is it just my mother AngrySad.

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