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To only tell DDs father I'm taking her abroad one week before?

11 replies

FigRolls · 29/10/2013 12:53

We're going on holiday in December - I have been saving to go for two years. It's to an EU country and I really really want it to be a surprise for my 6 year old. She sees her father twice per month only at his choice and in the past he's spoilt all surprises he's known about - I.e telling her about days out, asking me what I'm getting her for Christmas then telling her etc. WIBU to only tell him about the holiday one week before when he won't see dd again before the holiday so he can't tell her?

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5madthings · 29/10/2013 12:54

ERM does he have parental responsibility? Do you need his permission to take her?

Just wondering if you leave it so late he may be cross amsd then refuse to allow it?

But it could be that you booked a last minute deal and your didn't know until then...

Spirulina · 29/10/2013 12:55

do you have residency? you might actually find you need his permission to leave the country....

Spirulina · 29/10/2013 12:56

oh,and would you be happy if this was the other way around? with him removing her from jurisdiction this way?

CoffeeTea103 · 29/10/2013 13:02

Seeing as this is about taking her abroad and not just a present I think yabu. You should tell him. if he were to spring something like this on you, would you be ok with it?

FigRolls · 29/10/2013 13:02

He does have PR. The weeks notice gives him time to seek a prohibited steps order if he wishes but obviously there's no reason for it to be granted. The difference is, if he ever had her in school holidays I'd ask what their plans are. He never asks before or after holidays what we have done.

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FigRolls · 29/10/2013 13:04

I wouldn't spoil it though Coffee so no need to spring it on me.
As long as I had the details of where they were going I wouldn't mind how much notice of where they were going.

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OvaryAction · 29/10/2013 13:04

I think it sounds a bit petty.

Just ask him not to spoil the surprise?

NynaevesSister · 29/10/2013 13:06

It is only to the EU and a holiday. I would check to make sure he has to approve trips first. Also if her name and your name are different then You have to take her full birth certificate. Also if she doesn't look like you. They are stopping a lot more people these days and my friend recently very nearly refused entry to another country.

FigRolls · 29/10/2013 13:06

I've asked him about every other one Ovary, he's still spoilt it. Then in the meantime he'll be telling her they could've gone to disneyworld/Barbados/the moon but mummy's taking her to a boring place instead and then our long awaited trip is automatically tainted by him.

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OvaryAction · 29/10/2013 13:10

what a twat!

Well I'll just echo everyone else then, make sure you have all the extra documents etc.

Enjoy your hols!

HissyFucker · 29/10/2013 13:18

If you have residency, iirc, you don't need to tell him about any trips, or seek his permission for any trip, anywhere of a duration of under 2 wEeks.

See what the law says, and if you can keep it to yourself, do so.

He's a twat, and one day she'll see that. Nobody like people that spoil nice surprises because it gives them some kind of manipulative hard on.

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