AIBU to think THESE PEOPLE are the reason.....

[Hegsy]

for so many people to believe that everyone on benefits is 'scum'? I'm enraged! If he didn't get his benefits he would go robbing?!? WTactualF? I was on JSA earlier this year because of redundancy and all I received was a paltry £72 a week and my DH was expected to support me over and above that. How has this man gotten away with not working? and those poor babies, how is it healthy for the mother to have so many pregnancies so close together?

sorry its daily fail

He has such an entitled attitude! Gah!

[NotYoMomma]

she was adopted so she wanted a big family as she had no brothers and sisters?

I was adopted but I have some common sense

not all adopted people are 'damaged' as someone said up thread

I think they will have similar issues in another house as they clearly do not know how to look after a house.

maybe they do need some support - remember that show about social services a while ago and they helped get cleaning stuff for a young Mum and how to use it etc because she was struggling. the turn arpund was amazing

I'm still confused as to why they have a snake though.

[PatoBanton]

No, those people are not the reason.

The Daily Mail is a massive part of the reason.

Look how they have presented this and twisted it, so badly that you have fallen for their usual trick - yes, the family is huge, yes they are in trouble, yes they have had more children than they can cope with.

But the man is ill
Their house is shocking

No one should be expected to live in a place like that

They are severely overcrowded

They need somewhere better. The bloke is not even claiming anything because of his illness, because he was refused DLA - which as some of you will be aware, is bloody difficult to get, so that isn't a surprise.

But the DM have paraded them as entirely to blame for their situation.

I am not saying that they had nothing to do with it but just look at how it has been covered. It's all about how big their telly is, FFS.

[AmberLeaf]

The captions on the photos are ridiculous!

Expensive: There is a new Hotpoint washing machine which fits two loads in at once, and there is a tumble-dryer alongside

Family of 11 has washing machine and tumble dryer, wow what a shocker!

[boschy]

god just realised we have mould too. just cba to really get in there and clean it up properly!

[sashh]

just because you are on benefits why can't you keep the house you have in good order and clean?

You have obviously never attempted to keep a wall free of damp. Did you notice where the paintwork is missing? That's what happens when you wipe damp off the walls, the paint and then the plaster comes off.

That washing machine - I have the washer dryer version, it does take a larger load but not double a normal washer, but that is one of the reasons I got it.

If he does 'go robbing' I hope he comes back with a better name for Karleigh.

[GobbolinoCat]

cantspel

You are not supposed to wipe or touch mould, the problem with mould is spores little tiny spores and its those spores, if breathed in can make you ill.

If you are a novice and rub them, they become air borne and more of a danger, you obviously cannot see them.


We had mould and had experts in to deal with the reason mould was there, and we were told categorically not to wipe it or move it. What they would do would be to spray it with special spray and wait for that to work but they would not even use that due to my DC having awful chests/coughs at the time. They declared our house a health hazzard.

[elskovs]

Christ those poor people. They look like starving refugees... I cant believe people live like that in this country.

[Opalite]

They just look like children, they aren't grinning for the cameras, that's all! The house looks quite tidy as in not cluttered, things are obviously put away in this house. We haven't seen the whole house and we haven't seen everything they own. In the living room Peppa Pig is on tv and there's a doll on the sofa. In the picture with the 2 teddy bears we only see the back end of the room... there are kids certificates in the kitchen, at least 3 outdoor toys visible in the garden...

[Pootles2010]

Did anyone read that thing Giles Coren's wife did for daily fail a while back about hoping her unborn baby wasn't a boy? There was a great uproar at the time.

I read a piece on her blog other day, she said she knew it was a boy at the time, delighted about that fact, but daily faily offered her a heap of money to write a goady article and it paid for her mat leave.

Honestly its all made up shite.

[GobbolinoCat]

You can also see water in the bunk bed pic, on the ceiling.

Maybe they do not know how to deal with the damp or find the source of it but that house needs urgent attention re the mould.

[ZombieMonkeyButler]

Or at least the correct spelling sashh.

For what it's worth, I actually think that could be a very nice house - but surely damp & mould is the LL's responsibility to sort out?

The DM missed a trick though, the normally show childrens' beds without sheets & sporting filthy mattresses. The photoshop department will be getting a slap on the wrist for that one, no doubt.

[AmberLeaf]

As for the lawn,

Garden: Mr Miller may need more state hand-outs to improve his garden, which currently has an over-grown lawn and an abandoned fridge

It is october and its been raining a fair amount lately. I expect lots of lawns look like that up and down the country at this time of year.

The fridge is NOT abandoned! they have a new fridge and that is their old one! I expect he will be paying the local authority to remove it some tie soon.

[Opalite]

Pootles, that makes total sense, I've always wondered if that's the case... to be honest there are so many crazy things I'd agree to saying if the price was right

[Heartbrokenmum73]

Me and my dc have recently moved into a privately-rented house. I've never done this before. Growing up we lived in housing association properties, then me and ex bought our house, so this is all new to me.

It's through an agency (had to stump up £1700 to move in!) and the landlord lives TWO COUNTIES away.

Since moving in I've discovered:

1. previous tenants had PISSED on the carpet in my bedroom (this has been replaced, but only because the agency have a carpet place they deal with).
   
   
2. the back door isn't fitted properly - there are plants growing under the frame and into my utility room.
   
   
3. the double glazing seals have gone, condensation on the windows, so am now anticipating mould.
   
   
4. the kitchen cupboards are full of damp - this was not evident when we moved in, but they fucking stink so I won't keep food in them. Christ knows how bad it's going to get.
   
   
5. we can't use the shower over the bath because when you turn it on, water sprays everywhere from the tap fitting.
   
   I'm depressed as it is - the thought that I've moved my three dc into a house that's in this state (and that the far-removed landlord must have known about these things) and that I'm paying £175 MORE each month for this than my mortgaged home really pisses me off.
   
   And I'm not allowed to remove so much as a screw from the wall (and there are loads sticking out that we catch our clothes on, all at DS2s eye height!) without permission from my landlord .
   
   What I'm saying is, the people in this 'new article' are living in a shithole over which they have very little, if any, control.

[ifyourehoppyandyouknowit]

There are certificates and pictures from the kid's school all over the kitchen cupboards and the kitchen is clean in the pictures, so I doubt it's a case of them just not being bothered to clean anything.

[MinesAPintOfTea]

I wondered if toys had been shoved out of the way. There are a couple right in the edges of photos if you look for them. I don't assume they have a lot, but there are a few more than are obviously in the photos.

[GobbolinoCat]

Heart Broken

Its a disgrace I saw program covering a broad range of negligence from LL and only something like 3% every get prosecuted.

I think law s on anti social behaviour, landlords who are rouges all need tightening up and acted on.

There must be something you can do to make your LL sort the house out?

[MinesAPintOfTea]

Oh yes, I noticed the certificates. And that despite the crowding all the beds are neatly made (at which I bet the photographer was cursing). The things that its easy for them to affect have obviously been done which is after all how overwhelmed people are often advised to tackle cleaning.

[kawliga]

I cant see how anyone would think those kids look happy and well cared for. If you look at the photo of the boys in their bedroom there is not one toy in sight, none in the longe and just a couple of teddies sitting on a window sill in another. Plus a clapped out push along in the garden. How do you have 9 children and no toys?

I grew up poor but happy. Most of my neighbours and extended family were also poor but happy. We did not have many toys between the lot of us, never mind just in my family. We played together without toys. How can you judge children's happiness based on how many toys they have??

[HappyMummyOfOne]

Awful, £32k for doing nothing (bar obviously lots of sex) and living in that state. No excuse to not clean or fix up the house when not working. If they claim to need a bigger place then they can do what most responsible people do, earn or stop having children with no means of supporting them. Being adopted doesnt make you go out and reproduce so many times!

OP, i dont think its just families like these that give benefits a bad name. This is just one family taking from the system but there are millions doing so out of choice. Be it by claiming they cant work as they have children, not working as they net more in benefits so why should they or not stopping at the number of children they can actually afford etc. Cases like these just emphasise the need to cap benefits to two children, i doubt they would have had that many if they got no benefits for them.

[ifyourehoppyandyouknowit]

But the children already exist. There's no point saying 'don't have so many children' when they are already here.

[BlingBang]

The children look fine, not uncared for or dirty in these pictures. The house doesn't look that bad either - apart from the mould. It's not ideal but some people are seeing different things here.

[IHaveA]

Oh dear Its hard to know what to say. This must cross off all the numbers on The Daily Mail Benefit Bingo.

[AnyCoffeeFucker]

I used to live with mould. I used to scrub it off and pain over it with special mold paint. Had no idea you werent supposed to touch it. Like the stuff in those photos. Although we got the furry stuff too, that didnt grow on the walls. Just my clothes. It is hard to get rid of.

Does the article explain how they pay for the sky HD ? Thats probably the biggest weekly/monthly expense.

Not nice that the kids have drawn all over the walls either.

But I dont think the garden looks a mess at all. Not with the number of people that are using it !

[GobbolinoCat]

Mould is a problem, the house is un livible.

In America they wear nuclear style suits to get rid of mould.

People comment on mould who are not experts. Any experts will tell you its a big problem and that family should not be living in it.