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Original poster

to be really annoyed with my landlord?

27 replies

extremepie · 22/10/2013 19:56

I was on my way back from picking up Ds1 from school today with Ds2 in tow - as I got to my front door I noticed my landlord was making his way from the back of the house to the front with 2 black bags of rubbish that I had left out my the back door to put out for the bin men (collection is tomorrow)

When he sees me he starts questioning me about how long the bags had been there and how it wasnt part of his job description to be putting my rubbish out for me, especially since most of it needed double bagging (according to him).

I was :0 I have never asked him to do anything with my rubbish so AIBU to be annoyed that he is having a go at me for something he just decided to do?

I told him that I hadn't asked him to do anything with the rubbish and he should just leave It for me to do, then started to go inside the house with the kids & went to shut the door, he pushed it open! I tried to shut it again and he started holding the handle so I couldn't lock the door and kept trying to push the door open saying he wanted to talk to me - I was losing my patience at this point as I have had D&V for the last 2 days, am in pain and tired from doing 3 school runs a day so I shouted through the door that I didn't want to talk right now as I am not well, eventually managed to get the door locked but he still stood outside for a while before disappearing.

AIBU to be pissed off at him?

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DevilsRoulette · 22/10/2013 20:01

That is totally inappropriate. Do you rent directly or through an agency?

I think he needs to be reminded of the laws about a tenant's right to quiet enjoyment!

Does he often take it upon himself to wander round your garden?

QOD · 22/10/2013 20:01

Why was he there?

TinyDiamond · 22/10/2013 20:05

hang on, is it a flat and he lives in the same building? Otherwise he has broken the la by being there as he needs to give you 24hours notice. I would be FURIOUS

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extremepie · 22/10/2013 20:06

That's what I thought devils! We rent through an agency but they live next door so usually we deal directly with them - I always thought that landlords had to give some sort of notice before coming round but they just turn up whenever they feel like it, this is not the first time he's been messing around with my black bags but it is the first time he has had the cheek to have a go at me about it!

I'm pretty sure he was just there the sort out the rubbish but that's not the point :/

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solveproblem · 22/10/2013 20:06

I would NOT be happy with finding my landlord in the garden! Can you move somewhere else?

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extremepie · 22/10/2013 20:07

No tiny its not a flat it is a detached house, and I was furious!

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Charotte31 · 22/10/2013 20:07

That's awful! No way should he be letting himself into your home without your knowledge then questioning how you deal with your rubbish. It's upto you! He needs to give you notice before coming round. As for stopping you shut your door, if he does that again you should call the police.

solveproblem · 22/10/2013 20:08

Can you lock the side gate in the future?

Clargo55 · 22/10/2013 20:08

Yes he needs to give 24hours. I would move if you could, I don't think he's likely to get any better.

stardusty5 · 22/10/2013 20:09

I would be very annoyed by this! Sounds like he has a problem with the way you are doing your rubbish- are there problems with foxes or seagulls in your area?

I only say this as i often roll my eyes at people putting their bags out really early as it does attract seagulls who proceed to make a complete tip of the street.

Strange man.

Original poster
extremepie · 22/10/2013 20:10

We are actually in the process of moving solve, I did have a lot of black bags out the back but they were mostly full of junk and paperwork that I was clearing out ready for the more so is not like it was mouldy food or anything and they'd only been there a couple of days, as far as I'm concernedits not his business!

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DevilsRoulette · 22/10/2013 20:11

Write to them and request a rubbish area. Since you dislike my storing of household waste until bin collection day, I request that you build a storage area where waste can be held until it is time to take it out. This will ensure that it is not visible.

And point out the law on quiet enjoyment and say that in future, you require 24 hours notice in writing. And that shouting at you and trying to force entry is unacceptable and you need an assurance that that will not happen again.

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extremepie · 22/10/2013 20:13

Don't have a side gate solve, the whole garden is completely open so they can just wander around - he didn't actually let himself in the house they were outside the back door but its still on the property, I could have (an occasionally do) been walking around naked for all the knew! They never give me notice for anything, they just turn up :(

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ChippingInNeedsSleepAndCoffee · 22/10/2013 20:15

Have you found somewhere new & given him notice yet?

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extremepie · 22/10/2013 20:17

That's a good idea devils, probably won't make much difference if we are moving soon but might help get him off my back :)

I was pretty upset about him trying to push his way in, don't think he would have done it if I hadn't been alone in the house with the kids :(

I think a closed door is a pretty easy to read signal to go away personally!

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solveproblem · 22/10/2013 20:18

I wonder if there's a letting a ombudsman of some sort where you can file complaints?

I wish there was anyway but maybe it isn't that regulated.

DevilsRoulette · 22/10/2013 20:18

even better if you're moving soon because you can really lay into him and it doesn't matter cos you aren't staying there!

I think you need to send a copy to him and to the letting agency.

Oldraver · 22/10/2013 20:18

Bugger the rubbish, he tried to force his way into your house, there is no way he should be doing this. Have a word with he agent to remind him of the appropriateness of his behaviour

specialsubject · 22/10/2013 20:39

he is trespassing as you rent a separate property. He cannot go in to the house without notice and agreement unless it is a real emergency.

that's the LAW.

ReallyTired · 22/10/2013 20:45

Your landlord has broken the law. You have the right to peaceful enjoyment of the property.

He has no right to enter your garden or your house without 24 hours notice. You have the right to peaceful enjoyment unless its an utter dire emergency. (Ie. tenant on holiday and major water leak and the head lease requires entry has happened to us)

I suggest you ask the agency to gently remind him of the law.

VeryStressedMum · 22/10/2013 21:02

you were trying to shut the door and he kept trying to push the door open!
And you were on your own with your kids, that is totally inappropriate, very scary for you and maybe bordering on something illegal??? someone tell me if it is...

Does he actually live next door?

Cityofgold · 22/10/2013 21:14

Massively innapropriate (and illegal) for him to attempt to gain entrance by force. I rent out 4 properties, 24 hours notice of requiring access is a standard condition in most ASTL.

You are both in a difficult position if you have given notice to leave, I assume he is trying to let the property out to a new tenant so is trying to keep it looking nice for new tenants - he doesn't care about annoying you as you are moving out anyway. Regardless of his position however you have the law, and moral right I hasten to add, on your side. Send him a quick written note quoting from your ASTL about notice. Specify that he attempted to force entry and state that should this be repeated you will be forced to seek legal advice. Keep a copy of the letter. Use letters with copies or emails, not phone calls or conversations.
If you do not want to get in touch with him directly speak to the agency.

Good luck, and remember you are right in this situation.

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extremepie · 22/10/2013 21:41

Yes he does very! Thanks I am glad I'm not BU, I did feel a bit bad about closing the door on him and shouting at him to go away but given that I'm not well and feeling tired and fragile at the moment I was just shocked at what he did and didn't know how to respond, no way did I want him coming in the house I don't know how I would have gotten rid of him!

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iloveny001 · 22/10/2013 21:50

Since I've decided to move other residents in my building have asked if it was because the land lord has been breaking into peoples rooms. I'm going to mention it to the letting agent when I leave, don't want to now in case it causes problems for me. (Leave next week). I'm not sure if he has been in my room but there have been things moved, but I'm not sure if I did it and forgot or someone's been in here.

Have a similar issue with rubbish as am getting rid of a lot and people keep going through the bags when I leave them outside. Trying to do it in stages now.

Can't wait to leave this place, and relish in a spacious bright one bed flat.

iloveny001 · 22/10/2013 21:51

Oh and the main reason I'm leaving is the mice. Oh god, the mice. The letting agent wouldn't send anyone as landlord didn't give permission until there had been an inspection of my room in case o was encouraging them.

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