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To be livid that the US government shutdown has ruined my holiday?!

74 replies

Primadonnagirl · 03/10/2013 20:58

...I haven't had a two week holiday in two years ( first world problem I know!) but I have been working really really hard lately in a very stressful environment and absolutely need a break...we have spent a fortune and a lot of time planning our dream holiday..but now we can't do half the things we want to do because the enational parks are closed..which means finding new accommodation etc...that in itself is annoying enough but we are tied into connecting flights so basically have to spend time and Money hanging around..which IS NOT how I wanted to spend my holiday!!!!!!I could scream!!!!!

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AveryJessup · 03/10/2013 23:54

Bring some WW2 veterans along with you and you'll find the local Republican opportunists politicians showing up quicker than you can say the words 'hypocrite' to get the relevant national monuments opened for you... does that help? Grin

Texas Republican berates park ranger for enacting rational consequences of his government shutdown

Wibblypiglikesbananas · 04/10/2013 00:29

I would be pretty annoyed too! I've lived in Washington DC for the past year or so and thankfully, DH doesn't work for the government - hence for us, life has carried on pretty much as normal. The local library is open, as is DD's nursery, as is the local hospital (private, obviously) and somewhat surprisingly, our rubbish was collected this morning. The postal service is still functioning, and so too are the emergency response teams - a good thing too, given the shootings this afternoon.

However, having just returned from the local park, it's a different story. One of my friends is their family's only breadwinner (works for a government department). She is in work for the next couple of weeks, but then her funding runs out and she literally won't be able to pay their rent. Another friend is a federal employee and has been told not to go into work and isn't being paid. She told me they can survive financially until the end of November. Yet another friend is working but for no pay - now that is a tough deal! The 'shutdown' is affecting many working families very badly indeed.

A lot of the US media coverage can make the smallest thing sound like a huge drama, so there's been so much hype around this, you may find sights and so on aren't quite as restricted. If you're coming to DC at all, a lot of private museums are still open and there's still lots to do - though the Smithsonian museums being closed would be a real downer.

Not quite sure what I'm trying to say. I would be gutted in your position, absolutely gutted, but there are some people here who are going to lose their homes and so on if the shutdown continues - so all the more serious. Equally, the US has so much that is run privately, and you can pay to do, that you will still be able to have a great holiday if you want to.

TheSporkforeatingkyriarchy · 04/10/2013 00:33

No, it's meltdown, in several states people aren't going to be able to claim benefits for food after the 15th (when current vouchers run out). The ones that are are because the state is supporting where federal has shut down funding. Anyone on a low income is at risk of having their services stopped if they are deemed nonessential.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 04/10/2013 06:48

Doris, you can walk into Yosemeti or the Grand Canyon, but there will be no amenities or help if you're in trouble. It's not like the Peak District. Nobody lives in them.

Primadonnagirl · 04/10/2013 06:54

Thanks for your calimg words and suggestions...feel a bit better this morning! I know it's far worse for the employees and I wasnt trying to trivialise it, but I'm just so disappointed.

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Bowlersarm · 04/10/2013 06:59

Just offering my support to the OP.

Yes other people are suffering worse than she is due to the shutdown, but I'd defy anyone not to be upset, on a smaller personal scale, if their dream holiday plans had been ruined through no fault of their own.

I'm sure there will still be plenty to do OP, although changing plans tends to be a lot more expensive. Hopefully the situation will be sorted out soon. Hate to think what will happen if it isn't.

londonrach · 04/10/2013 07:03

Could you rearrange to go to another part of usa. Its amazing place to visit. We found the american civil war gettysberg very interesting. Grand canyon was abit of a let down. Too many people and to honest once you looked at the big hole you done it unless you go down inside the canyon. Now bryans canyon is amazing as is zion national park. I feel for you as its not easy. Hopefully something be sorted by next week. If not the town , views are worth seeing. X

ErrolTheDragon · 04/10/2013 07:56

Now bryans canyon is amazing

Guessing you mean Bryce? - Dh worked with the grandson of the eponymous. My Bryce, grandpappy's comment was: 'A helluva place to lose a cow'.

ILikeBirds · 04/10/2013 08:33

Bryce and zion are both national parks, therefore closed also.

KatyTheCleaningLady · 04/10/2013 09:42

The Grand Canyon should still be viewable from the Indian reservation someone mentioned above. Of course that could be a hundred miles from where you're going to be.

meddie · 04/10/2013 09:48

Yanbu to be upset and disappointed I would be too if I had waited and saved for years for this.
Its a bit of a strawman to suggest OP has no right to feel this way because some government workers arent being paid. Should none of us have any right to enjoyment because 'there are starving babies in Africa'
Out of interest would you have any claim on your insurance for loss of enjoyment?

Trills · 04/10/2013 09:49

Just because someone else has a broken leg, doesn't make my stubbed toe actually hurt any less.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 04/10/2013 09:52

I'd be fed up, too.

Hope you still manage to have a great holiday, I'm sure you will.

I'd spend the whole two weeks eating my body weight in Taco Bell and Babe Ruths.

OverAndAbove · 04/10/2013 10:32

Oh gosh yes, I would feel really miffed in those circumstances. Hopefully with advice from those who know the area and some research you'll be able to find some alternative places to visit (and maybe more off the beaten track as well!) I agree with Marmalade, it would all be about the food (and drink) for me!

OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/10/2013 10:39

I would be upset too. the only thing to do is to make the best of it by seeking out other things to do.

Just posted in the weather section that NOAA have had to shut down their hurricane advisory service website. You can get alternate information on weather.gov but its not nearly as detailed. Currently there is a Tropical storm (Karen) heading for Louisiana. Its possibly it might scrape into the Cat 1. hurricane category. I'm going to keep a bit of an extra eye out for tropical storm info while this goes on and I'll post it in this thread

OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/10/2013 10:45

Ok. So can we help with alternatives? :)

I guess you are going to be hiring a car. Are you happy to say where your flights are too/from and how long you have in between? Have you got accommodation booked and if so can it be changed without penalty?

KatyTheCleaningLady · 04/10/2013 10:53

Yes, can we help you change your plans? If you have a car, you have options, like visiting the viewing platform on the reservation. You may not get to see certain pristine famous views of Yosemite, but there are stsill ways to see beautiful mountains and non-federal attractions. What are the airports and the dates?

Mimishimi · 04/10/2013 11:05

I don't live in the US but we have similar parks here in Australia and I grew up near several. Generally the main tourist entry points would be barred off if the parks were closed (never for government shutdown reasons!) but there are lots of other entry points which locals know about (and which are also on the maps). Could you not look those up on Google Maps? It's still a bit of a hassle for you but it would be worth finding out whether you are completely barred from entering the parks (ie if they will fine you if caught). Then again, if you've booked through tour companies, that is going to be a big problem.

ILikeBirds · 04/10/2013 11:10

You are completely barred, national parks not comparable to those in the UK, not sure about Aus. Breaking in is likely to lead to fines/arrest. They were reporting that people stopping to take photos on the highway through zion were risking being fined.

quoteunquote · 04/10/2013 11:12

There is plenty of wildness that is not in the national parks, gets some maps.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/10/2013 11:14

The trouble with replanning a trip in the Arizona/Utah area is that the driving distances are large - there's miles and miles of nothing but geology.

OYBBK - shutting down the hurricane advisory service at this time of year seem extraordinarily stupid. Shock

Chopstheduck · 04/10/2013 11:20

there is more than one way into the grand canyon. We drove in on 180, but then drove out on 64 towards 89. I wonder if 64 will be closed altogether or not?

It does sound like a total nightmare though, we were there August, and spent much of the holiday in the national parks, you must be gutted. Hope you get something sorted soon xx

Chopstheduck · 04/10/2013 11:21

btw, if you do reroute entirely, have you considered Lake Havasu? It is very pretty, we stopped by there, and I wished we had more time to explore. I don't think that is a national park, so that should be open.

Chopstheduck · 04/10/2013 11:23

and what about big sur, and highway 1? Some fantastic scenery. You can still get to things like McWay falls without actually entering the park too, there is a path down from the main road.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/10/2013 11:31

Errol - its awful isnt it. I have found the basic warnings on the weather.gov site, but they contain much less discussion about evolution and there arent the cone maps to indicate uncertainty of the path etc.