More of a Would I BU to mention this to the teacher?

[SleepyFish]

Ds is in P1 and the drop off/pick up routines are as follows:
At drop off all children have to line up and wait for their teacher to come out and usher them in (there are 4 classes).
Parents have on several occassions been told (in person and writing) that they must stand well back and not 'queue up' with the children or approach the teachers (school rules are you have to make an appointment if you want to speak to the teacher, fair enough imo). I should add these rules are in place mainly because of one particularly confrontational family at the school.

At Pick up each child comes out individually and has to point out their carer to the teacher before they are 'let go'.

However there are a handful of parents who clearly believe these rules do not apply to them and accost the teachers at drop off/pick up every single day. My problem with this is at drop off the children are left standing waiting whilst the teacher chats to these parents, and parents who are trying to get off to work are left standing waiting to see their child gets into school safely making them me late for work.

At pick up these parents again go straight up to the door and start chatting to the teachers and children are either left standing whilst the teacher is distracted or sneek past whilst the teacher's back is turned and i've seen many slip past unnoticed meaning the teacher isn't aware of who they are going to, if anyone.

So tomorrow i have my first parent/teacher consultation and my question is WIBU to raise this issue with her tomorrow or are there other procedures i should follow? This whole school thing is new to me and for some reason this issue is really getting my back up, irrationally or otherwise.

I did consider there might be sen/medical issues and obviously I don't know either way but it's the fact that these parents don't have the decency to wait aside until the children are in and hold up an entire class of very young children. They seem completely unaware.

I think that's exactly what I need to say RevelsRoulette.
Great name btw.

I think it would be better taken up with the head, as it's more of a school organisation issue.
The same parents should not be monopolising the teacher every day.If they truly need that levelof communication because of SNs/medical issues, Then a different system needs to be put in place to deal with that, that doesn't impinge on the whole class.

Thanks. I read it on a thread, someone was joking about playing it and I thought that would make a bloody brilliant name!

I don't understand why parents cant speak to a teacher in the morning. If its an indepth thing then sure the teacher can say Ill ring you later. but there are times when I do need to mention or ask something of the teacher. It infuriates me that I cant and everything has to go via reception in front of a q of mums detailing everything for them to hear-reception being way over on the other side of school.

I should be able to quickly mention that he need his inhaler on the table or outside at break time or that when he asks to go to the bloody loo then he really does NEED to go to the loo. There is no relationship between parents and teachers.

The school has teaching assistant they can settle the kids in and ready to start. Given that the kids are allowed in up to 20 mins before the 9am start I really don't see why this is not possible, instead the mums have to take an extra 15-20mins going and speaking to reception who have no idea what your talking about and have to write every word down.

I want some revels now. Roulette indeed, i hate the toffee ones but they're usually easy to spot until you get an uncharacteristically large one!
Couldn't agree more pixiepotter, it's the fact that it's affecting everyone else (including me) that's annoying me. I don't know it just seems that the teachers are afraid of offending anyone so put up with it instead of being brusque as i would be. It all seems very softly softly compared to when i was at school in the dark ages.

I'd mention but be sensitive to the fact that there may be genuine reasons for some.

I'd dearly love not to have to speak to my sons teacher daily but unfortunately he has SN and difficult behaviour and they usually want to talk to me!

That said we have a home school book to take care of as much as possible.

Might be better to mention to the head about the system in general not working?

It would make sense to let the TA'S get the children in leaving the teachers free for a quick chat. I've no idea why they don't do this. I haven't had to go to reception yet but i can see the issues of the conversation not being private, particularly if it's regarding a sensitive issue.

They may not have enough TA's though not every school has one per class so the teacher wouldn't be ale to send the kids in then stand outside chatting to parents as the children inside won't be supervised.

Actually thinking about it they do have plenty TA's but there is at least one child with sen per class (ds went to nursery with most of these children in case you're wondering how i know) and i'm guessing the TA's are busy helping these children, one in particular for example has to be carried into school everyday.
Thanks for all your thoughts everyone, think i'm going to write a letter stating my concerns about the current system, see if they take any notice. The simple solution to me would be if a parent wants anything other than a very quick word they simply have to wait aside until the teacher has seen the children inside. I'm sure she would then have a few minutes to chat whilst the children got themselves sorted and into class and the rest off us could shoot off to work without having to make a heart attack inducing sprint to catch the bus.

I always wonder what the hell they can have to say every day. Probably nothing of any great importance.

Or maybe, like my DC , the child has a health condition which the teacher needs to be updated on. Yes everyday. Maybe not be important to you but it may make the difference between whether my child leaves school in an ambulance that day. YABU to blame the parents when you have no idea what they are talking about.

Having a DD1 who was perpetually minority bullied and getting into other minor hassles and a teacher who was brilliant at quickly sorting it out. I'm sure I'd have broken you must have an appointment rule at least once a fortnight.

DD2's teacher I probably spoke to once a term if that.

Blocking the door while young children escape doesn't sound like a functioning process and nor does delaying the start of the day.

Of course, there need to be processes in place to ensure messages can be got to teachers and got there promptly - children suffering from illnesses, children with SEN, children being bullied, children bereaved, etc, so many reasons! Most recently, I needed to tell the teacher not to tell DS off for losing his homework, as it was me who left it on the bus and not him.

There are lots of way - it might be a contact book, email, teachers being out well in advance of the bell so any messages can be shared then, teachers holding parents back to discuss things when the other kids have gone.

I find the teachers at my children's school have this rather successful middle distance gaze which means they don't "see" parents are even there until they have released all the children - rather like the one waiters use when they are ignoring you! BUT, you are free to wait and then chat to them, they check email daily, all the senior management team are out in the playground so you can chat to them instead, or you can leave notes via the office. So I have never felt deprived of contact just because I couldn't do it right that very instant - most messages can wait the five minutes it takes to release the class!

That's a good point caterpillar. Currently the teachers come out after the bell goes. If they came out a few minutes earlier it might go some way to sorting the problem. I think I'll mention that possibility in a letter.

One of my children has health issues too and I always wrote a wee note in her homework book. Talking about a particular sports event that both the teacher and parent attend is not a reason to hold up the school day,which is what is happening at my school.