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Too think they overusing the word hard working people

32 replies

3asAbird · 01/10/2013 09:29

Watched dave on news at conference and on the background of stage was the word hardworking people.

He then does interview about gps and how extending gp hours is vital for hardworking people.

Every other speech seems to have hard working people.

What is the definition of these hardworking people

whos not hard working?

Unemployed, disabled, sahm, people who work part time?

Just fed up of hearing it.

Maybe they think the more the use it the more it sink in.

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LEMisdisappointed · 01/10/2013 09:32

For "hardworking people" read daily mail hand wringers who blame everything on either immigrants or the unemployed - it is a substantial proportion of the electorate that dodgy dave is trying to win over there :)

Binkyridesagain · 01/10/2013 09:32

YANBU, I'm bloody sick of seeing and hearing it.

Just another way for them to create divide and force home their 'belief' that there are those that work and those that scrounge.

Latara · 01/10/2013 09:33

Some people who work full time are not hard working at all. Some are just lazy and get out of doing as much as they can (certain colleagues i'm thinking of here).

Anyway, YANBU because Dave C's announcements put my BP up.

expatinscotland · 01/10/2013 09:35

It's a crock of shit.

feelscared · 01/10/2013 09:36

Dp and I work ft and I thought it was OTT. My job's hard but so's a sahm.

littlemisswise · 01/10/2013 09:38

YANBU.

For some people getting out of bed in the morning is hard work. Looking after a disabled family member is hard work. Being a SAHP is hard work.

He doesn't mean those, though, does he? He means those who are well enough and fortunate enough to have a job and pay tax.

He really, really pisses me off!

caramelwaffle · 01/10/2013 09:39

I am beginning to find it a tad annoying also.

I am neither pro nor con re: the Conservatives (I am a floating voter)

They - it seems to me - had a jolly weekend away somewhere, with a five minute meeting thrown in, that instructed them to get the phrase "hardworking people" stuffed into Every. Single. Hardworking. Sentence. Every. Single. Hardworking. Interview.

rosieposey78 · 01/10/2013 09:41

Ynbu. I thought the very same this morning. I really don't get their attitude to part time and sahms.

TheBigJessie · 01/10/2013 09:41

Remind me again, what did the members of our parliament do as "hard work" before becoming MPs and claiming expenses for sitting down on plush seating while heckling?

TeWiSavesTheDay · 01/10/2013 09:47

It pees me off too.

3asAbird · 01/10/2013 09:47

Sorry guys I forgot to add immigrants but if you add each group up surly we a sizable majority they pissing off?

I just want to chuck something at TV. when I saw it in big writing on poster made me feel quite angry.

Sometimes they use it more than one time in a speech.

Several members of commons use it like they all have robots sounds like they all have a script.

One speech still annoys me is Osbourne people not opening the curtains whilst their hardworking neighbours go out to work

The leaflets from local party say working on behalf of hard working people.

I despair don't know who to vote for they all annoy me.

Feels like UK becoming more polorised, divided and right wing.

Wonder how may hard working teachers are on strike today as that,s another thing we get from unions the hard working public sector workers which implies private sector are lazy.

So who,s the most hard done by?

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BigBoobiedBertha · 01/10/2013 09:50

Hard working people makes me think of well, hard working people.

It is not a term restricted to those without paid work - even amongst those who are actually employed to do a job there are those who find every which way to get out of doing anything. The ones who spend too long on fag breaks and lunch breaks, those who skive off early or come in late, those who do bugger-all all day so they can do overtime. There is less of them these days because employers can't carry dead weight but they still exist.

There are some people with a sense of entitlement in all walks of life - amongst the employed, SAHM, those on benefits, disabled or whatever, who don't do as much as they could in their personal circumstances.

However, YANBU. It is one those crappy over done politician's phrase. All parties use it. It isn't the preserve of the Tories, its just that we hear it all the time from them as they are in government. I don't know why any of them bother - nobody ever thinks they are one of the work shy ones unless they are actively committing fraud or milking the system and then they don't give a toss.

3asAbird · 01/10/2013 09:57

They not actually defined who,s not hardworking.

But workfare and sanctions on jsa making unemployed people do same work as criminals or work for less than min wage.

A lot of policies are against sahm parents as cant transfer allowance, some lost child benefit so reading into changes doesent seem they value or support anyone being at home.

Of course pensions have worked hard all their lives , paid their stamp as many like to say and cant touch any of their benefits or label them as lazy they a protected group.

They making sweeping generalisations on peoples lifestyle choices.

surly its better a mother works part time or goes back uni to retrain is a good thing?

The new childcare vouchers discrimates against 2 low paid workers and part time workers as they 1200 per child is min 10k each so both parents have to be working 30hours per week at min wage to make 10k.

Its not a sahm issue they just easy target as they don't contribute or get much back. They decided to ditch big soceity.

Forget child cares expensive and inflexible and say they just excuses.

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TheWave · 01/10/2013 10:01

Awful to hear so often. Do they think we are stupid enough to fall for it? It's divide and rule the population DM style.

YNBU.

helzapoppin2 · 01/10/2013 10:05

I like Dave. He seems good hearted and sensible even if his party's policies aren't.
Would he define me as a "hard working person?"
I doubt it. I am a SAHM, family grown up, all but one has flown, so my labour is unpaid.
However if I returned to work and paid someone to do what I do they would no doubt be a hard working person.

meddie · 01/10/2013 10:09

Just waiting to see the raft of help for working lone parents then. Seen as they are on duty 24/7 and must surely be the epitome of hardworking... Anything.... No... Thought not

helzapoppin2 · 01/10/2013 10:14

True, meddie

nogreythatmatters · 01/10/2013 10:17

All politicians use the phrase. It is the same as politicos using the phrase "working people".

Although considering many politicians have in their lives only worked for political organisations in non jobs like as researchers, political assistants and aides, it is disingenuous for them to utter the mantra.

OrangeOpalFruit · 01/10/2013 10:49

i was moaning about this only this morning. I only work part time at the moment in a piss easy job and I'm feeling victimised.

FriendlyLadybird · 01/10/2013 10:54

Yep, it's one of the phrases in DH's and my party conference drinking game. Thank goodness we don't actually tend to drink alcohol for it, as we'd be sloshed by the end of the news.

summertimeandthelivingiseasy · 01/10/2013 10:55

YANBU I am sick of it, and turn the radio off.

3asAbird · 01/10/2013 10:55

For the many in uk does not matter how hard they work they will just work to live and cover their basic costs.

I dont feel the recovery has been handed down to normal people.

there are too few jobs out there for people looking
living costs are high
wages too low

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emotionsecho · 01/10/2013 11:08

All these trite phrases that politicians parrot at any given opportunity and work into any answer to any question irrespective of the subject of said question drive me mad. They all do it "squeezed middle", "fixing the roof when the sun is shining", etc., etc. They sound like idiotic robots, ah the focus group says "x" let's get that word into every single speech we make. Unlike politicians the public do not have the attention span of a gnat, we do not need this constant repitition of stock phrases/answers. It has the opposite effect of making us listen to what you are saying we just switch off. Do something radical, talk like NORMAL people and we will listen and hear what you say.

Sorry, rant over!Grin

MurderOfBanshees · 01/10/2013 11:09

YANBU at all.

Takes the piss doesn't it?

3asAbird · 01/10/2013 11:17

yep I switched off.

Normally I would watch some it it but feel there are no policies i agree with or not meant for me as im a non person looking after kiddies at home whilst hubby works incredibly hard.

Hardworking families are only those where both parents work full time.
Their policies reinforce that belief.

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