Hotels that won't allow children but do allow dogs

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I am looking for a decent, fine dining hotel to celebrate my mums 80th next year. aibu to be annoyed that one I looked at allows dogs but not children under 10? My dss are all over 10 but my niece is 3. She can use an knife and fork, doesn't smell or shed hair, or shit poo all over the grass. Ffs.

*No, baconandoniontart - it is NOT up to you to decide who or what a hotel owner welcomes in to their dining room.

When you open your own hotel, you get to decide.*

What about the b&b owners who were sued for refusing gay clientele?

Really, really not the same thing.

I have been out alone with DH once since ds1 was born 5 years ago. We picked somewhere child free. I think we were allowed 2 hours of our life without someone's precious little darlings being oh so cute wanting to talk to us, or running round, or any thing else small children like to do.

Sorry I am another who hates small children in restaurants.

Having said that, have you looked into the option of private dining rooms? Depending on numbers a lot of fine dining hotels and restaurants have private rooms where they may agree to host your niece as she won't impact on other clients? As a family we have done this several times, total number of seats usually in the mid teens, they will often also do your choice of a set menu too.

Yuk! I'd ban both from posh restaurants.

Any chance it's because a hotel with both opens up a can of worms

You only have to look at the very occasional Mumsnet whiner when a dog looks at their kid

I wouldn't want dogs or small children at a fancy restaurant tbh! You would think neither would be allowed!

It is not the same as refusing a gay couple FFS!

candy I know it's not, I was just responding to the post about hoteliers choosing who they welcome into their hotels.

Bet this wouldn't happen in France!

We're not in France OP.

I don't have an issue with it (and I have kids). I think there are times you want to go somewhere on know that there are no kids running around, because as lovely as so many kids are, they can ALL be complete pains at times.

There are plenty People with no kids, who have dogs, so why not address their needs? After all, there are thousands of hotels who don't allow dogs, but do allow kids.

I'd imagine it's more to do with actual facilities...you need family rooms for young children, you don't need anything to have dogs.

But dogs are almost always welcome in restaurants in France at least where I lived.

And the gay couple comment is outrageous, shame on you for that.

If I had had a dog for as long as I have had my son, he would be impeccably trained which is something I cannot say for my toddler...
I agree though that it makes more sense to find somewhere that does cater for younger children than to be annoyed that a place that doesn't should have the temerity to even exist, so YABU.

If it is a "fine dining" sort of place then surely the type if dogs catered for are Paris Hilton handbag type dogs. Either that or there is accommodation attached and they don't want guests to have to leave the dogs in a strange room.

I go camping and have stayed on places that do allow dogs, they are less trouble than children (I have both). The dogs that are used to travelling are well socialised and trained, they don't clean themselves etc.

Go to any rural location and people have dogs with them in pubs etc.

As far as I know any establishment serving alcohol can state no children (without challenge), but normally it is after a certain time. They probably get more revenue from dog owners than the odd person that wants to bring their child and a lot less hassle.

YANBU I've had more issues getting kids into pub restaurants in UK than into fine dining restaurants..keep looking there will be someone who wants your family's business.

It's a rare posh hotel that bans kids thesedays too.

in theory i would like to see children in all restsurants. but unfortnately some are poorly behaved. i was in a very posh hotel bar/restaurant recently and there was a very middle-class couple with 3 children under 5 were making alot of noise and mess, it was awful, but you could tell thhey thought they were being very right on in exposing their children to this. it ruined our while meal.

Sounds like the sort of place I'd love in a couple of years!

Kids can be an utter pain (mum to 3). My dogs are great company

Truestory I have had meals and hotel stays ruined by other adults too.

Yabu. There are way more hotels that accept kids and won't take dogs.

Do you not understand that gay people are protected against discrimination by law and children / animals are not?

I've stayed in loads of posh hotels with my under-5 - it's not difficult to find a hotel that will accommodate kids.

Also have a for getting out the tired old 'France is so child-friendly' fallacy.

My children are now adults. I don't want an evening restaurant with children because I have no faith in parents keeping them under control. Dogs are more likely to be asleep or out of the way.

It can also be a licensing condition. Where I am (Scotland) if a restaurant wants to let little children in there have to be changing facilities and the room has to be set up in a certain way so children aren't within x feet of the bar to be fair I think that bit is bonkers so often children aren't allowed, even if the owners would welcome them.