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To ask what people think a social worker's job role is?

422 replies

filee777 · 28/09/2013 16:06

I am intrigued. I know this is in AIBU and its not really that sort of question but I want diverse and interesting opinions.

So what do you think a social worker does? What do you think a social work should do?

OP posts:
firefly78 · 28/09/2013 21:52

Excellent post hatgirl.

FutTheShuckUp · 28/09/2013 21:52

I think it's a big deal someone doesn't know the name of the governing body of the profession they are training in. In fact I think it's shocking. If that makes me negative then so be it.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 28/09/2013 21:56

hatgirl You sound like a great practice assessor. My new one seems very quiet, keen for me to ask questions and to be in the lead, which is a change from my last one who liked to lead. I like that I am encouraged to question and think. I spoke to a previous student who had my assessor and said he likes you to think for yourself and not be told what to do. There's something to be said for people who expect to be spoon fed. I am 25 so a youngish mature student but I did enter university and placement with an expectation that I would receive more guidance that I've gotten. I quickly learned that you get out what you put it. Wink

FutTheShuckUp · 28/09/2013 21:57

sigh you just don't appear to want to listen to anyone do you? People who are giving you the benefit of their experience you just want to rebuff because well actually who cares, you'll wing it. You are really going to have to learn to lose that there chip on our shoulder as over the next few years you will encounter a lot of constructive criticism and people sharing their experience with you. And even when qualified you will receive criticism just due to the field you are going into and the preconceived prejudices people have about social work.

Canthisonebeused · 28/09/2013 21:57

Concepts and journeys do change and become invalid very quickly OP

candycoatedwaterdrops · 28/09/2013 21:58

Not only is law what SW is bound by but it is the foundation upon which the whole of social work is built - something to always keep in mind, file. :)

Slippydippysoap · 28/09/2013 21:58

I'm a second year SW student with 10 years of social care management experience.

You need to know who your governing body is. You need to know what their code of practice is.

Don't start sloppy, this stuff is important and it is not up to your university to spoon feed you.

AnaisHendricks · 28/09/2013 22:01

If someone had posted, "I don't have a clue who Michael Gove is because it's only the first week of my Batchelor of Education degree" I'd give them a Biscuit as well.

I must also be a very negative person.

Canthisonebeused · 28/09/2013 22:02

Can I give some advice OP that will go along way in what you are embarking on, shut up, listen, and stop defending!

filee777 · 28/09/2013 22:07

Ummm, I am not sure whether what I have said has been insulting to someone or if my OP wasn't clear, but all I really wanted to do was discuss people's opinions on social workers as just normal folk in a variety of situations who have come across social workers for whatever reason.

All I am is a caring person who works in the community and who is studying to better myself, I don't think I particularly deserve such animosity. My study is born out of a wish to work with people and help people, nothing more.

I am sorry if people think that is not enough, my tutors seem to disagree and I am sure that over the years I will gain all the information I need from them to be as good a social worker as I can be. I've been feeling positive, working hard and reading the information available to me. I am not 'sloppy' or lazy by any means.

I honestly just wanted people's opinions on their experiences, not to have mine ripped to shreds. It's pointless negativity that I don't need at the start of my course. Thanks for the support those who have answered the question, I won't be replying again.

OP posts:
Canthisonebeused · 28/09/2013 22:12

Not offensive just very Nieve I think. In a discussion of such a nature it's ok to have your own ideas ripped to pieces and you'll find that out along the way. My last post wasn't mentioned to be offensive just straight to the point. As a social worker it is the most important personal qualities you can develop. You need to stop and listen and probably never ever defend your position but justify it and learn from it.

AnaisHendricks · 28/09/2013 22:12

"I am sure we will be trained well"

You are going to be a professional, which means that it is your responsibility to keep up with policy changes and recent research now and in the future. I would argue that you should have been on top of this from the very moment your chose this career.

Training is what happens when you are operating a checkout.

hatgirl · 28/09/2013 22:14

to be fair to the OP I started out just as enthusiastic

I'm still committed the job but every day working in Local Government makes me more angry about the expectations on social workers and about what is happening to society in general (I'm trying really hard to not make this political). The job has changed beyond recognition in the last 5 years. I come home and cry at least weekly out of frustration, stress, anger and sheer impotence in the work I have to do. I haven't had a decent nights sleep in the last 18 months as i'm doing paperwork into the night and I wake at 4.30 - 5am worrying about the day ahead.

I take student social workers on top of everything else I do because their enthusiasm helps remind me why I wanted to be a social worker in the first place. Through being a practice assessor I am all too aware that universities are, by and large, completely out of date in the information they are peddling to students and giving them wholly unrealistic expectations of what is actually achievable in the job now.

filee777 you need to look at the HCPC website, the college of social work site, read the guardian's society pages, look up blogs, read community care, read the daily mail if you have to to get a flavour of what working as a social worker is like.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 28/09/2013 22:23

File Books on info about psychodynamic theory, attachment theory, person centred theory, ethics, values and all that sort of thing will never really be out of date and are all good background reading. Then, you read the updated stuff. Wink

Souredstones · 28/09/2013 22:26

I think social workers are awesome

I think OT's are too

If you work in local government you'll find the two pretty much do similar jobs.

Souredstones · 28/09/2013 22:28

I will also say that facillitators (unqualified social workers/OT) do a brilliant job too (identical in fact) for a whole lot less money

Souredstones · 28/09/2013 22:30

Ok I've read the first 2 pages properly and can't read the rest for laughing.

OP when you've been on placement come back

AnaisHendricks · 28/09/2013 22:33

I would hope that Sir Roy Meadow's theories and shaky grasp on statistics are well out of date, but he was only struck off in 2005.

Mouseranuptheclock · 28/09/2013 22:42

Change lives, well that's what 2 great social workers I've had in the past did

onadietcokebreak · 28/09/2013 22:44

You've had some great advice.

Dont judge who's going to finish the degree. With respect you don't seem to know how much of a journey you are untaking!

And id be seriously concerned about a nine year old book being core text. Which book is it?

candycoatedwaterdrops · 28/09/2013 22:51

Yes, I just noticed you said it's an E-book. That's quite poor, that book you mentioned in your PM has a 2012 version. You should let your university know ASAP. Anyway, theoretically, all the books will be out of date now due to the GSCC being dissolved.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved · 28/09/2013 23:43

My personal experience of social workers has been incredibly destructive and damaging for me.

Cruel, incompetent, lying, threatening, ignorant of basic law, libellous, self justifying, defensive, rely on offensive stereotypes, discriminatory, bullying... A few words that dont even begin to cover their 'help' for me.

I have noticed that whenever someone complains they are quickly disregarded as a unreliable witness in some way. Either the good old 'no smoke without fire' adage, or basic lies being told about people to stop anyone listening. Lucky for me my dealings have not been about a child as that's the most used excuse for refusing to hear, accept and implement changes from a bad experience/ complaint.

I've been exposed to the joys of adult social care. Now, even though I don't fit into any of the stereotypes of a 'service user' that hasn't stopped them bringing out all the usual inconpetebce and bullying they usially get away with. Followed by the typical discrediting strategies they usually use.

Among other things, they tried to say I was mentally incompetent, and had severe behavioural problems which meant I was a danger to myself and others! I actually had to provide copies to my gp and consultant as they thought it couldn't be possible these things could be levelled at me, rhought i must have been given someone elses notes by accident. Umfortuneatly not true, it was all nicely weaved in with identifiable details of me. Oh they also said i was terminally ill but wouldnt admit it as i was mental! Err, well my consultant was surprised to learn that i was, and also pointed out the neatness of that statement as i couldnt argue back, as that proved their point!

I wonder how with these awful problems I manage to get by with my first and my high level professional career etc.

When asked for evidence to prove their libellous claims, ss said it was because I am physically disabled that I must also have these (conpletely unrelated) problems.

Yes, I mean it's well known that physical disability causes mental incompetence and behaviour such as biting! Glad we've moved on from Victorian times, or even nazi sentiment.

Biting ffs, irony is that my jaw is fucked and I can't even bite a piece of broccoli let alone try and take a chunk out of a human!

Before anyone scoffs and asks why they'd bother making up anything like this, I have one word to say... Money. I'd be on someone else's budget if they could declare me mentally incompetent. When I took them to task on it, one of them looked so upset as the penny dropped what she had done to me. She'd just been following orders from above and hadn't thought what the implications might be for me personally.

Just one of a multitude of little incompetencies theyve cone up with... It didnt work, but it has had a substantial effect on my physical and emotional well being, having to battle them every step of the way (after the sweet talking strategy of two years led nowhere but abuse and threats from them).

They appear to be baffled as it's completely embedded in their minds that physically disabled people are stupid pathetic scum who must sit quietly in a corner and kiss the hands that throw them a crust of bread. They cannot understand why one of these revolting cripples can dare to ask for their basic human rights, courtesy, basic professionalism, let alone actual competence and skill within their job role.

I'm sure there are good social workers somewhere around, but I have not met one (though one good OH a while back).

I have been disturbed though not surprised to find that my initial complaints were dealt with (eventually, when they actually dealt with them instead of more threats etc), by hanging out to sey the lowest levels of staff. It doesn't take an idiot to see that they were working in an envrironment that rewarded and expected them to behave in this way. having dealt with the head of adult ss, it clear where the problems are coming from.

In my humble opinion the adult ss team in my area is not fit to practise. Although I'd like to think its just one bad team, it doesn't seem probable in the grander scheme of things.

I have to carry on fighting, not just for me but for those people who cannot fight for themselves. As the people that know me in rl say 'if they can do this to you, what the hell are they doing to people less able to help themselves'.

My health however is suffering from trying to deal with this awful situation, and I think ss strategy is to know that eventually I'll be too ill to carry on any longer. Trouble is, they are right.

Preciousbane · 28/09/2013 23:51

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FortyDoorsToNowhere · 29/09/2013 00:09

Not read the thread ( i normally do) so going to answer from the OP.

I think a SW should be there to help and support a family to keep them together as much as possible, if that fails ensure supervised contact if that fails after all solutions then place the child up for adoption.

flummoxedlummox · 29/09/2013 00:11

I'm a social worker and got into it late on. I had twenty years of private sector experience in various roles/industries prior to this. I feel well qualified to say that every job/industry has a variety of people working within it, some crap, some excellent.

However, being a SW, this is the one job where I despise other people doing the same job who aren't passionate and care. In other jobs/industries it was annoying but didn't have such profound effect of peoples lives.

In answer to your question OP I don't have case load and don't deal face to face with clients. So, SW's have a variety of roles and functions.