To disagree with 3/4 year old children having more childcare paid for

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I feel the goverment should pay for education rather than childcare. 15 hours a week is enough to meet a child's educational needs for pre school. At a time of austerity, I feel there are bigger spending priorities. (Providing enough school places for children who are of complusory school age!)

If you choose to have chidlren then you should pay to look after them. I feel that labour's set of proposals are totally unaffordable and making the "banks" pay will damage the UK financial sector long term.

All these election bribes do not help the UK in the long term.

Two healthy wages= two people working damn hard
One healthy wage = one person working damn hard

(And of course in both cases if the people are parents they are working damn hard doing the stuff all parents do too)

Retropear: IT ISN'T FREE. If you read the thread loads of people are saying it is inaccessible, unavailable and that it makes a minimal dent in their private nursey bill if your LA are willing to give you the funding! That 2 'healthy' wages is hard to raise a family on. That many of the posters object to the inequality of the CB changes. It isn't entitlement if you are told you are entitled to something that you can't access!!

Far more deserving causes- nice just because you earn a fortune(as mentioned on other threads) it doesn't mean CB is just pin money for others less wealthy as it is for you.

CB takes no account of joint income so it penalises sahp families(families on far more joint can keep it),you must be one of the only people aside from George Osborne and Shiny Dave that think this is fair.

Janey how can you be doing why a sahp does if you're not there?

It would realy be an interesting demographic who got free 2 year old nursery place (for the most deprived). Got the 3year old 25 hours (both parents working).Kept their cb and had a ks1 child.

One healthy wage means two people working damn hard thanks.

Wee I don't understand a word of your post.

What don't you understand?

Well for all the huffing and puffing and sighing about how hard and necessary it is for some people to have one parent home full time to facilitate the other working so damn hard, it's a tad ironic that the moment families where both parents are working hard outside the home ( combined with the hard work we all do raising children) it suddenly morphs into some idyllic 'two healthy wages, two tax thresholds, and even 'earning a fortune !' Lol

Retro, you forgot Nick Clegg, Danny Alexander, et al. The CB policy has libdem written all over it. They hate earners on 50k, they accidentally admitted it at their party conference and then had to deny it quickly

at 2 healthy wages! If you want a wage, you will have to go out and you know...work for it! Again, 2 higher earners would not get CB. Current hours for 2 years is solely for early years education and there are strict criteria. Everyone is entitled to the free school meals, yes even your little darlings despite your partner bringing home £50k plus. Everyone is entitled to the 15 hours for 3 year olds. You're just coming across as a foot stamping, spoiled baby.

Most people do not "hate" £50k+ earners but hearing them cry and wail about they need neeeeeeeeed more money from the government really boils my piss.

I find people are generally most fulfilled when doing one or two things really well rather than several half-heartedly. That's probably a reflection of the Alpha type personalities who live in big cities and drive value creation. Most of them are pretty about the 35 hour week sorts and just how much their lifestyle costs the economy.

According to the 'logic' of some posters here, I should be able to give up my job tomorrow, decide that I am somehow 'jointly earning' my husbands salary, and get some financial advantage because of that.
Just wow!

We work 50 hours one of us, 40+ hours the other one bonsoir. Its easy to do long hours and we dobt have nannies or cleaners. There are still more than enough hours in week.

Politician do hate them. They are easy pickings, especially those on PAYE.. Yes, they hate us. Happy to take our taxes though to fund those who hate us too

No Janey it morphs into a group that are not needy if on a combined salary of 60-80k.

Further down the chain I have more sympathy although I think the measures the Tories are bringing in along with everything else are more than enough for many.

Expecting the state to fund your lifestyle choice is one thing being slung at sahp - hypocrisy at it's best.

I don't think 40 or 50 is long hours... Not in my neck of the woods...

Oh and the wailing from wp on a healthy joint income that they neeeeeeeeeed more money from the gov boils my piss too Candy.

Again hypocrisy at it's best,

"I can't believe that seemingly intelligent adults can't realise that just because they can afford to have only one salary coming in, that other people cannot."
I cannot believe that seemingly intelligent adults can't manage their finances well enough to manage on one income and actually choose to have children who they say they couldn't afford to feed without government help.

Its not long hours but its still really easy to work those type of hours still be present at the school, all activities etc. Its a good balance and you can give 100% to everything. I love it personally.

"I cannot believe that seemingly intelligent adults can't manage their finances well enough to manage on one income and actually choose to have children who they say they couldn't afford to feed without government help."

You should do motivational speeches to people living in poverty! Oh and I assume you refused child benefit?

No wailing about losing CB here. Neither would I expect to have it reinstated if I give up my job tomorrow. I think that would be a piss take.

Just to add perspective to what Lalunya was saying about Germany, in France nurseries are free from 2 and half years, regardless of the parents' income and job situation. I'll admit I'm not entirely sure about waiting lists, number of spaces etc, but I do know that both my sister's DDs benefitted from it from that age. And I went to a free nursery at 2 and a bit myself.

Just because parents get so much less over here, doesn't mean we have to accept it's inevitable!

Badlywrittenpoem. Wow! Must be nice to be so fabulously intelligent. Please share your magical formula with the rest of us

Retro The government suggested this policy. Some people have said it would be helpful. It's the select few who are acting like babies and appear on all these threads - more than willing to take the freebies but not help anyone else.