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Bastard Newmarket Holidays - AIBU

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Mindy9 · 21/09/2013 20:43

Have namechanged for this.

It will probably be easier if I just copy the email I sent Newmarket to explain my complaint......

Hello

I called Newmarket to enquire about a coach trip to Oxford. I was advised that I could book the "Bletchley Secrets" trip as this had a day in Oxford for the first day of the trip.
As I had previously enjoyed a day in Oxford (around 4.5 hours) with Newmarket as part of a Downton Abbey weekend, I decided to go ahead and booked the trip online a few days later. I should impress upon you that this weekend was my only holiday with my child this year as I am a single parent with three jobs and as I am sure you appreciate, times are tough.
We were incredibly excited about the trip and set off from Brighton at 08.30. We expected to be in Oxford by lunchtime even allowing for stops. However, in total it took us SIX AND A HALF HOURS to get from Brighton to Oxford. The coach broke down about 20 minutes outside Oxford just before midday. We were given various stories about coaches being sent from Brighton, another Newmarket coach in the vicinity coming to rescue us from the hard shoulder, and eventually, a bus was sent from Oxford City Buses to take us to the nearby service station where a Newmarket coach would pick us up. By this time, it was around 14.30. The tour manager, name removed, told us that we would now be taken, NOT to Oxford, but to Blenheim Palace, which was supposed to be an Optional Extra tour. I pointed out to her that many of us had only booked the trip to spend a day in Oxford and that if we had to go all the way to Blenheim first, this would leave us no time to even get off the coach in Oxford but she just shrugged and said she didn't want to go to oxford first and it was basically tough.
At this point my daughter was quite tearful and so I begged the Oxford City bus driver to take the two of us into Oxford with him after dropping the others at the Services. He agreed to do this which was very kind of him. Other passengers got wind of what I had arranged and came with us. We eventually arrived in Oxford at 3pm, having left Brighton at 08.30. The Newmarket driver said he had to pick us up at 4.30 as we had to be picked up first so that the people going to Blenheim would have more time to enjoy their tour. Again this made us very upset and like second class passengers. By the time we got from the coach park into central Oxford and had a quick lunch ( you can imagine how hungry we were by now) we had less than an hour in Oxford.
When name removed got back on the coach she didn't even apologise to the Oxford passengers. All she cared about was the Blenheim tour. Our reason for booking this trip and paying £189.91 was to spend a day in Oxford, as advised by your operator and as backed up by my previous holiday with you. Instead we got a whole load of stress and an hour rushing around. Our weekend was absolutely ruined and there no acceptance of this by the guide, although I think the driver was embarrassed we were being treated so badly.
I would like Newmarket to reimburse me in the sum of £86 which is the cost of two return rail tickets for me to take my child to Oxford for the day, to make up for the day I have already paid Newmarket for but never received.
I am giving you the opportunity to put this right for us before taking the matter further.

So, Newmarkets response is that because the tour was called "Bletchley Secrets" they didn't have to take us to Oxford at all and we have no claim!! Even though I was directed to the tour when I called asking about a day in Oxford and the tour details clearly stated the first day would be in Oxford.
AIBU?

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CoffeeTea103 · 21/09/2013 20:49

What exactly does the terms and conditions say?

Mindy9 · 21/09/2013 20:55

It probably says they can take us to Timbuktu if they like. Doesn't make it right though does it?
I can't see the T's and C's now as the booking was all online and has now expired and cannot be viewed.
I just feel my holiday was ruined and they couldn't care less.

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CoffeeTea103 · 21/09/2013 21:13

If you go to their site and check if there is another trip like this, and check what's the conditions on there. It doesn't make it right if that's what they said. Do you have any email confirmations? Sometimes the t&c are on the emails

crochetkate · 21/09/2013 21:20

that truly is awful

i would write again, and if no joy look for the address for the MD

NadiaWadia · 21/09/2013 21:23

Don't think they are a very good company. Years ago we booked a weekend trip of which the main point was to see the Blackpool illuminations. We did get to Blackpool, but had to leave before it was dark, so not exactly getting the effect of the lights! For some reason they had booked everyone into a hotel in Knutsford, Cheshire that night...

Seems they are still badly organised and just arrange things to suit themselves.

Mindy9 · 21/09/2013 21:24

They are still advertising the holiday with this rider:
"Leaving your pick-up point in the morning we'll head to Oxford, the "city of dreaming spires". Explore the grand colleges and enjoy afternoon tea at England's first coffee house, the Grand Cafe."

But the Ts and Cs state this:
"We will not pay you compensation if we have to cancel or change your travel arrangements in any way because of unusual or unforeseeable circumstances beyond our control. These can include, for example, war, riot, industrial dispute, terrorist activity and its consequences, natural or nuclear disaster, fire, adverse weather conditions, epidemics and pandemics, unavoidable technical problems with transport."

What a fucking liberty!!!

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stiffstink · 21/09/2013 21:33

The question is whether the breakdown was unavoidable. Why did it break down?

Seems to me the even before the breakdown you were behind schedule, why was that? Had they told you the ETA in Oxford was lunchtime?

stubbornstains · 21/09/2013 21:33

nadiawadia they will have done that because that hotel was rock bottom cheap.

OP well, they should pay up, if they care about their reputation. But maybe they don't give a shit, and it looks likr they could wriggle out of it with the T&Cs.

The tour manager sounded rude and crap, but if they're a shit company, she may well have lost the will to live. You would not believe how little they're paid. I was a tour manager once. Oh sorry, have I started twitching again? Grin

Mindy9 · 21/09/2013 21:45

This has been going on since July and still no joy so I am taking the complaint to ABTA. I don't suppose I will get anywhere but at least they will have to bear the expense of dealing with it.
Thanks everyone. I may write to the MD too that is a good idea.

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claremp7 · 22/09/2013 01:08

I've had a recent terrible experience with haven holidays.
They left our family with our six month old DD in a caravan with toxic fumes!
Waited over a week for a phone call and when it was still not forthcoming I tweeted what terrible service it was.
I had a reply within minutes and a phone call the next day.
The situation is quite resolved but big companies don't like negative press.
Find their Facebook or Twitter page and post your experience on it!

MrsSparkles · 22/09/2013 09:26

My mum recently went on holiday with Newmarket, and had a few problems (nothing huge - just what was promised to them by Head Office in the UK didn't actually happen). She wrote to the marketing director I think, and had a call from him the next day - apologising etc.

I think it def helps to write/email to someone more senior. Quite often things don't get passed up to them and they're horrified when they hear about what's happened.

Preciousbane · 22/09/2013 09:30

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crochetkate · 22/09/2013 13:00

Googled - Marketing manager according to Linked In is Phil O'Sullivan

Best company address seems to be this one.

The Newmarket Group
McMillan House
Cheam Common Road
Worcester Park
Surrey KT4 8RQ

Good luck

Mindy9 · 22/09/2013 15:20

Brilliant! I will send him a missive!!!

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