White girls should stop Twerking AIBU

[Thepowerof3]

To find this comment offensive? A FB (sorry!) friend has posted this comment on a video. I have never twerked nor do I intend to but find it outrageous to be told I shouldn't because I'm white

well aware of it Mistress. I spent the first half of my childhood living in Central America and the Caribbean.

mignonette thats nice. Im still living in Caribbean. Back in UK for a while soon tho

So all the West African slaves had just one dance, slapping their bum cheeks together against random mens crotches ?

you really see this as a racist problem

really is it that important are white women going to be banned from twerking in public i very much doubt it, in fact if you are a white pop start twerking you are going to get publicity

racism is a far bigger problem than a few people some would say understandably being pissed off when something from their culture is adopted by white culture and becomes all the rage

Mignonette if you know so much about jamaican dancehall moves then why not suggest something like the tik tok which is more similar in pace/speed to twerking than the butterfly though not the same twerking is much more of a random unchoreographed 'move'

You know there are hundreds of dancehall moves? dances change when the 'rhythms' change, songs are made with the same rhythm and each has a 'move' to accompany it.

Way more to dancehall moves than just the butterfly.

God I envy you Mistress. I lived on Trinidad, Aruba and briefly Haiti.

No Gun if you are referring to what I said. I actually mentioned them as originating from a myriad of dance styles.

Dancehall is all over the west indies, it is not just Jamaica where people have dances and bust their moves. It#s like black cake, you would think if you had only ever met Jamaicans that this was a just Jamaica recipe when in actual fact it's the same in Barbados, Trinidad and Antigua. I'll give Jamaica Ackee as only Jamaican but the rest of it is Caribbean not just Jamaican. It's not just you mig it's the whole world who unfortunately onlt see Jamaica when they think of "ghetto black caribbean things"

I haven't actually paid any attention to the lyrics, but I was a teen when it came out so I might not have cared/understood anyway.

Yes Amber i am aware. But again in my first post i didn't think it necessary to list paragraphs of African and other dance styles in order to protect myself against implications of cultural ignorance or stereotyping. If it'd make you happier I can do that although it might look a little patronising as though I am trying to 'teach' you all. Bearing in mind the accusations of appropriation of black culture by white people i thought that might seem a little insensitive.

As I said I know the girl and she is not 'understandably annoyed' about something from her culture has been misappropriated, she's just a tit. If I had the audacity to say 'black girls shouldn't...' I'd get a fucking slap and deserve it

And yes amber is right,

How would you mig explain the cowfoot dance! Or dancers like shelly belly making new dances up all the time? Or how Boogle did. It is not just from slaves it's from everything around on the here and now!

Oh and I knew boogle! If his inspiration was from slavery days he didn't realise it! He just loved dancing and being wacky.

Sigh indeed.

You're doing ok with looking patronising as it is actually, shame really as your posts just show that you don't seem to know as much as you think you do.

Dragon I make Trinidadian black cake for Christmas every year. I get it started in August. That's the first time I've ever heard it mentioned on a forum like MN! . I also saw it mentioned in my copy of Home cooking by Laurie Colwin. I've never met another Caucasian who has tried it in my real life.

Believe you me I do not just think black=ghetto=Jamaica

That is so wrong. You have got me very wrong.

I got taught how to do this move plus a bunch of other similar glute-slaying, midsection/ hip isolation moves by my roommate 20 years ago: she was a Wolof from Gambia/Senegal. We were both dance mad.

It was not seen as particularly saucy.
It was something the women did to celebrate their men doing something eventful if I remember correctly.

Miley didn't do it properly.

Well we have just watched the link and ahd a family twerk.

My back is now twerked

Amber don't be a dick.

Dragon I would explain it as one of the myriad of dances from a multi cultural environment that like Language, morphs and changes.

If dance is the expression of history, culture, politics, emotion, psychology and beat then it is common sense that it will grow, change and be as free form as the people doing it.

And there is such a thing as subconscious internalisation.

snigger

Are people really falling out over the origins of arse shaking?

Yeah back at ya mignonette.

Nancy

Some perspective at last.

Where's Bigsporklittlespork she will sort this out!

Bun fight starting about twerking

Can you two just TWERK it out between yourselves?

actually i thought the moves are very similar to north african dancing, which is more energetic than egyptian dancing which belly dancing comes from

op so this girl is acting a tit, if you were to act a tit in the same way you would be called up on it too, just with the word racist added to it but you arenot going to do that and would not but still it upsets you mmm ok

i love how mn can argue over anything its great

SPD

I'd be useless at it.

I can however dance on pointe after decades of ballet. That'll have to do as I'm certainly not equipped to do a 'save the last dance' cross over number.