Has Jamie Oliver sold his soul?

[ABaconAndOnionTart]

Okay, I know this has been done to death but, Jamie Oliver advocates higher welfare meat, and yet is cooking chicken wings in his budget programme. Can't remember seeing free range or organic wings for sale unless attached to the bird! aibu thinking his message is forget the morals to save money?

[ubik]

I'm interested in what Boffinmum? was saying upthread about the state run cafes of Britain.

Other countries.. well continents really, have a culture of street food which we don't have in the UK. They sell cheap filling healthy food to all and sundry, to judges and rickshaw workers, to children and the elderly. There was a programme on Radio 4 the other day about Singaporean street food set up to ensure most working people were able to get a decent meal.

I'm really not sure this whole JO appeal to 'mama in the kitchen cooking meals for the family', really is how life is lived in other countries/on other continents particularly in the cities when whole families are working.

What street food we do have is either wanky stalls charging a fortune or your standard friend egg roll/bacon butty van -( which I happen to think is an absolutely fine lunch)

[Mopswerver]

I Don't buy it. It would have taken years for her to get any attention but I suppose that's more noble. From where I'm sitting she has carved out a pretty lucrative career for herself thanks to all the publicitytoo. Good luck to her. She deserves it.

Don't get the anger at all. There are really awful celebs out there who sit back, suck it all up and give nothing back. Whatever you feel he has done to betray the poor (depends on how you interpret his comments) he has and is trying. So he's made some errors in your opinion. Who hasn't?
I'm guessing he would have to don a hair shirt, give all he has plus every penny he earns in the future to please you. He's not doing that he's just doing something. Quite a lot actually. Makes you wonder why people like him bother.

[YouTheCat]

All he needs to do is stop flapping those huge lips on subjects he knows little or nothing about.

That would do for a start.

[Darkesteyes]

Mopswerver Jamie has shown vitriol towards lots of groups of people And i cant help noticing that you are not the only poster harking back to the past with rose tinted glasses.
a. Experiencing poverty as a child you were protected from it somewhat by your parents. Its the worrying they probably did but that you didnt see because they protected you from it gives you a rose coloured view of that time.
b. Back then there were no zero hours contracts or workfare.
c. IF Jamie had referred to ethnic minorites instead of poor people there would have been a HUUUUGE outcry.
He made sure that he picked the same prejudice.
He picked the safer inverted racism as well in his references to British workers.

Racism is abhorrent whichever group its aimed at and that includes social racism.

[Darkesteyes]

Sorry that should be He made sure that he picked the SAFE prejudice.

[mignonette]

Mop He keeps on making those nasty comments though doesn't he? Then makes a mealy mouther apology on here, THEN repeats it all.

No, he needn't don a hair shirt. All he needs to do is as You so neatly put it. Shut up w/ the ignorant social commentary (really just his opinion, not researched analysis) and cook.

[Darkesteyes]

YY mignon eg after the webchat on here he went on Radio 4 and simply swapped flatscreen telly for iphone.
And on same webchat he admitted that his book wasnt aimed at poor people and said there were great mumsnet threads for that.
So why bring poor people into it at all if its not aimed at them.

The fuckwit

[LayMizzRarb]

I think Walls should use his lips as an image for their next marketing campaign.
My DH calls him 'that tosser with the sausage lips'

[limitedperiodonly]

I keep meaning to leave these threads alone but I'm drawn to them like a fly to shit.

He is a weapons grade cunt.

[Bakingnovice]

Mop are you jules?

[JustBecauseICan]

at Bakingnovice.

Didn't he get into trouble for thinking it's perfectly acceptable for the Fifteen staff to work 98 hours a week or something? Just because his Dad had him peeling the tatties when he was a lad?

Knobber.

[Mopswerver]

ha ha, no. If I had her money I wouldn't be wasting my time on here. I just think there are worse pariahs out there and his efforts may be ill judged at times but I applaud them. Darksteyes nope. Haven't got a clue what you're on about.

[mignonette]

His Father and the pub are facing an employment tribunal soon for constructive or unfair dismissal, cannot recall which.

[fatlazymummy]

School dinners were great when I was at school - meat, potatoes and veg, sponge and custard, seconds for anyone who was still hungry. And not a single fat kid.
I don't really understand why they were changed in the 1st place.

[expatinscotland]

'I don't really understand why they were changed in the 1st place.'

Privatised and put out to cheapest bidder.

[fatlazymummy]

Yeah, I'm sure you're right Expat. It's a bit sad though when you realise that for some children their free school dinner may be their only meal of the day. The menus I've seen wouldn't really fill anyone up for very long.

[Owllady]

when i read the title I thought he was the new advertising face for frey bentos pies

[buandnu8]

hello, i thought i was the only one to find fault with mr Jamie fingers in soooo many pies Oliver. i used to think he was great, fighting the small mans cause, real food, ethics etc BUT was shocked and said to see how his website is full of links to supermarkets (ocado)!!! mmmm money saving! and banks advertising. PLUS how many businesses has he got!!! Why is he not supporting the local shops, the small uk farmers, the businesses that really need his help? He's up there as an example and that example is all about greed, money and selling his soul to the marketing companies and FAT CAT Supermarkets... very very sad!

[ILoveTomHardy]

I wouldn't mind him banging on about healthy food and school dinners etc if his Jamie's Italian restaurants weren't so vile.

Went to the one in Nottingham on Saturday having been to others previously (not my choice of restaurant but for birthdays of friends etc).

The service was dire. Waited an hour for starters and another hour for the mains. The starters were ok but the mains were awful. My DP'ss DD had chicken lollipops which were basically manky chicken on what looked like a long toothpick and five chips. Yes five.

My lasagne was burnt on the top and sloppy inside. My DP's tagliatelle bolognese was a mound of dry pasta with maybe a tablespoon of sauce.

The main courses were, in short, disgusting. Will never eat there again while I have got a hole in my arse.