to hate 'Loose Plans'?

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Evidently we are going for Sunday Lunch with the ILs today. I know where.....I dont know when. No one seems to.know when.

Raaaar!

We didnt do the inviting so feel.bad barging in and saying see you at X time.

Why cant planners make firm plans for their guests¿¡

I like firm plans and a booked table. I am the worlds most impatient person and if i have to wait for any length of time in a queue i can see my family/friends glancing at me surreptitiously waiting for the volcano to erupt.

Nightmare. A family member owns a busy country pub/ restaurant and it amazes him the number of people who turn up expecting a table for 8 to just materialise when they haven't booked!

I like lots of planning. If we're going anywhere I need to arrange the day to fit in and make sure we have everything we need ready eg nappy bag, drink beaker, beach towel whatever. I can't get up and just decide to go somewhere as we always end up rushed to get there, leaving things and then trekking round looking for somewhere to buy baby wipes. DH sees nothing wrong with this and is terrible for refusing to commit to arrangements. As a result we have missed things because they have sold out, booked up etc way before he has even considered it.

Mortified - next time, pretend to have stomach cramps, disappear to the loo, lock yourself in a cubicle for the next hour so you can MN on your phone, and take comfort in the knowledge that the next time you go out for lunch, DH will be more likely to book in advance.

Oh my DM is like this and it does irritate me.

Nothing is ever properly planned. I think she likes to think it is easy going, take it as it comes etc., doesn't want to impose on people by giving them a set time and place. But all that means is that everything comes off half-arsed and no-one really knows where they are meant to be and when.

In recent years eldest DSis has taken over as main organiser as DM is getting a bit old to do much in that way herself anymore and things go very much more smoothly.

Oh yes this makes my teeth itch. Pick a fucking time book a fucking table. top tip - if you can turn up on a Sunday and just get a table then the food will be foul. MIL and FIL (separately)are great ones for this. MIL makes no plans decides to go out and then expresses amazement that the food is grim.

FIL. Makes such vague plans with people that on one particularly memorable occasion - The kids and I had eaten in a first shift and were leaving by the time everyone else was turning up. They were all saying such a pity we haven't seen you or the kids. Yes it is fucking 8:30 the kids are shattered and need to go to bed, so no we will not be staying to watch you eat you bloody dinner. Dinner will small children is severely unlikely to be after 6:30 - the time I gave up and ordered for me and the kids.

And what is more I can and am very happy to cook Sunday lunch\dinner for whoever they want to invite. More the merrier i say. BUT no we must go out. Because it is better

And breathe....

My OH says that I organise the fun out of everything. It may be organised on a timetable, but at least fun happens.

He is another that believes fun just happens as if by magic. I hate pop in visitors. I like to be hospitable and plan a meal. An extra couple of people for dinner is fine, not if they are dusty and won't take pot luck.

OP, Sunday roast out is not relaxing. We went out yesterday. Dh booked the table, we sat with the kids in the middle, children ate their lunch with our starters and played on pads

not dusty, fussy (adult eaters; pasta isn't exotic).

Our meal was lovely BTW. Kids were entertained and well behaved.

The ugly, I think we DO have the same DH.

I book the holiday I want. On holiday, he hates it when I organise things for ds. He is late for everything and on holiday just wants to live from moment to moment. I am easy going and don't want to pack every day with an itinery. I don't want to spend every day by the pool.

He likes a lie in and I can't. I like to go out early, he'd rather go 'out for the day' after lunch. He is lovely but this gives me the rage. I just tell him what my plans are and he joins in or not, I really don't mind.

The ILs have got the most rigid timetable and routine I have ever come across. They are also far too early for everything. He is clearly rebelling .

How are you a mindless sheep for booking in advance??! . Surely that makes you mindful as you are making up your mind and making plans?? Rather than just waiting to see what happens... Mindlessly.

OP I hear you. My least favourite sentence when making plans has to be 'let's play it by ear...'

Aarrggghhh.

If you are a large group going out for a meal decent places get booked up in advance. I rarely ate out when the kids were small as it was too much faff. people could come to us or go out to the pub to lunch without us.

Why do some people think normal things don't apply to them. The very nice restaurant probably won't have a table for 8 on spec. Hotels are cheaper if you book in advance. I can't decide if they are self centred, can't bear to think beyond today or both.

Either end of the scale is annoying.

The Ugly, ditto for never getting in touch with his mates. he is the most popular anti social person I've ever met. His parents are the opposite though.

He takes a turn at arranging his own weekends away and so gets what a pain in the arse it is.

He is going away tomorrow and was worried because he could not get a hotel. No shit, Sherlock, you and the rest of the world will be going to the same concert.

Oh I had this when I moved from Wales to London. There were NO times!

Person- See you tomorrow?
Me- Brilliant, what time?
Person- 8ish?
Me- Great see you there (normally pub related)

I'd get there 8ish, as in between 7.50pm-8.10pm thereabouts. And wait. And wait (other people to chat to mind, not being a Billy no mates!) Until around 10pm ish, person would stroll in.

Me- Thought you said 8ish?
Person- Well, i'm here now!
Me- Yes but you said 8ish, so I was HERE 8ish
Person- Yeah but, I know I said 8ish but well..you know..it doesn't mean 8ish..it means sort of anytime AFTER 8. So, what you drinking?

And just like that, it's brushed off. I'm the unreasonable one, expecting them to be there around the time they said they would

I found it a revelation after living in Wales where an arrangement would be made, taxi booked, a phone call to other person when taxi booked, another when I was in the taxi en route

Old phrase I was taught by a previous manager "To be early is to be on time, to be on time is to be late, to be late is unacceptable" Couldn't quite agree with the logic behind that one but understand the sentiment.

Same manager taught me "More than one is a queue..." Totally irrelevant but thought I'd toss in in there

dh's mantra is "after lunch" drives me around the bend.

I really really like loose plans! Especially on a weekend as I have no idea what time I will wake up and feel like getting up and dressed.

What is wrong with saying afternoon and at some point ringing/texting to see what everyone is upto and then making a time?

I hate being tied to time on a weekend so irritating!

8ish means between half 8 and 9 shakey or be on your way to place by 8.