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wonderingsoul · 12/09/2013 19:19

I've done with out a cooker and for the most part it's made me cook. Healthier for almost two years. I can. Do almost any trig except fry and egg and cook mince.

(Sonic buy quorn and do with out egg) it can be done just takes longer and a bit of forward planning.

I recently decided to. Get an oven. Second hand 25.. which was great. Really excited. Till I found out it would cost at least 80 pounds. Feom local gas. Enginere to fix it in. And British gas wanted 110.

More than tipple what the cooker is.plus I have no quantity the cooker won't pack up in a month as it was from. A stranger so I decided not to go ahead with it.

I can't afford to have. It fitted.. Abu to think your gas company or electriy company. Should fit themfor free or at least at a small price not 110.

I've decided to save up for a new one but I just wondered if others thought. The. Same.
I probably am and just. Having a bad woe is me day.

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wonderingsoul · 14/09/2013 11:58

as far as i am aware it all takes is connecting the gas pipe and gas line and making sure it is gas tight, takes 30 minutes max.

i am aware of the dangours, which is why im not going to be stupied and connect it myself, iv sold my phone and with in two months i should have enough to get a cooker and pay for installations.

what i dont get is how other comapnys that sell cookers charge 70 but bg charge 110.. theres a big differeance in price.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 14/09/2013 12:04

There are plenty of gas fitters that will install a cooker for less than £100. You just have to shop around. But, if you get a proper Corgi registered tradesman to do it, they not only make sure it's safe, they can also check other gas appliances in your home at the same time. BTW... companies that sell the cooker and fitting as a package can do the fitting cheaper because they're making a profit on the appliance and they're at your home already to deliver it. A separate gas fitter involves a call-out charge.

pumpkinsweetie · 14/09/2013 12:09

No company in the land will give you anything for free, they all have to make money.

But yanbu re the charge of £110, that's astronomical, British Gas are arse wipes. Try elsewhere, aslong as they are corgi registered, get some quotes and go for whom is cheapest.

Or failing that get an electric oven, or convection microwave which will cook like an oven only smaller capacitity or halogen etc

Groovee · 14/09/2013 12:11

It needs to be a Gas Safe engineer now. Corgi are defunct.

Toombs · 14/09/2013 12:18

British Gas won't do the job even if you pay them, they will sub it out to a local contractor. Go to a local gas fitter.

Be aware that it is illegal to carry out any works on your gas main supply if you are not a Gas Safe registered fitter. Also be aware that it is illegal to carry out any works on your kitchen electrical system unless you are a Part P registered electrician.

Whoever the poster was who wired in their own oven is committing an offence.

phantomnamechanger · 14/09/2013 12:32

Re: cooking mince (and indeed other meat) in the microwave.

Just put it in a large enough bowl/jug, cover and nuke it on high! Stir after every couple of minutes (times depends how much you are cooking) and ensure there are no pink bits left (same as cooking in a pan!). I would then strain off some of the fat/add some boiling water and gravy mix, and cook again for 2 mins to ensure piping hot all the way through - or you could add a jar of tomato pasta sauce.

we survived for several months with no cooker. OK, so we did have some microwave meals, but we also had chicken fillets, salmon, mince and gravy and all sorts.

I used to keep food warm in the "cool box" (wrapped in foil) while the next thing cooked - eg keep the JPs warm while cooking some salmon or chicken, then serve with salad. You can cook new potatoes and veg in the microwave in a few minutes.

I still don't know why you are surprised that different companies charge diferent rates for the same job. We have just had quotes in for a job that range from £2400 + VAT right down to £800 + VAT, for EXACTLY the same bit of work, to a very specific standard. That's life!

contortionist · 14/09/2013 12:33

I think the OP is not 100% unreasonable. Phone companies will subsidise your mobile so that they get an extra customer. It's not inconceivable that British Gas might choose to do the same sort of thing by offering cheap gas installations.

phantomnamechanger · 14/09/2013 12:35

Also be aware that it is illegal to carry out any works on your kitchen electrical system unless you are a Part P registered electrician.

really? I know at least 2 people who completely refitted their kitchen including the electrics, and one who rewired his entire house.

who checks up on these things then?

contortionist · 14/09/2013 12:35

Toombs - I'm pretty sure it's legal to do your own wiring as long as the work complies with the relevant standards. Building regulations might be involved in some cases, but not for simply wiring in an oven.

Toombs · 14/09/2013 12:38

No one, if however you have reason to make an insurance claim it will be invalid if the work wasn't certified by a Part P electrician, You can carry out the work yourself in any part of the house if you wish but the kitchen and bathroom must be checked and certified.

contortionist · 14/09/2013 12:44

(Having done some reading). For major electrical work, you can either get a Part P electrician to do it and self-certify, or you can do it yourself and get building control (via your local council) to certify it. But wiring in an oven doesn't need to be certified in this way.

PeppiNephrine · 14/09/2013 12:51

Why would they do a job for free? Confused Toilets are a necessity too, but if mine blocks I need to pay a plumber.

Toombs · 14/09/2013 12:52

I've checked and you're right, DH obviously didn't want to do it. It sounded plausible.

wonderingsoul · 14/09/2013 12:55

phantom

thank you. i will u se this info in the weekahead!

iv had almost 2 years with out a oven or hob, so it can be done, and infact my children ate healther for it, with out the need of microwave meals, i think theve had 10 in the past almost 2 years, you can dboil potatoes/pasta/veg and that, but it does take longer and more planning, as in which to do first etc lol. iv just reached a time where it would be SO much easier just to have an oven and hob!

of course i know that different companys offer different prices, im not stupied, but that doesnt stop me thinking major company could ofer this survice to their custermers for cheaper than small or independant companys, they have things for people on benifits, such as warm weeather discount so why not included a cheaper installtion in with it?

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Toombs · 14/09/2013 12:58

Small independents have fewer overheads and don't need to pay for a vast administration. They will almost always be cheaper than a national company.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/09/2013 13:29

As others have said needs to be fitted by a registered gas safe installer

Checked with my oh and he is wary about fitting 2nd hand cookers as doesn't know their history and if a problem then will come back on him

He will check all wiring/pipes/ chain it to the wall - illegal if not and gas and leave a certificate

He charges enough to cover his travelling time - petrol - pipework and also enough to live off including paying tax

Companies can charge what they like and if a person wants the trade then will pay

picklebumplum · 14/09/2013 13:40

op are you in the UK?

If so, find your nearest hughes electrical.

We rent all of our appliances through them including our cooker, we pay about £12 a month for the cooker

They come and fit it, if anything goes wrong with it you have a new one within a few days and you can get a new one every 3 years.

wonderingsoul · 14/09/2013 13:48

pickle-- i did look but there website said they didnt fit them? will go in and ask though! thank you.

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picklebumplum · 14/09/2013 13:52

They do fit them. You need your hughes local, they have to fit them as part of the agreement. They fitted all of ours and even changed plugs

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