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Prince William to leave the armed services

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baffledmum · 12/09/2013 12:07

I am a fan of the monarchy but this has just made me stop and think...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24065166

Hmmm – not going to a “full time royal” = part-time royal then. What's he doing with the rest of his time?

I'd be happy to give up my job to focus on royal work and charity duties if someone can tell me where to apply! Or am I just being mean and unreasonable that he can afford to? Envy

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Mimishimi · 13/09/2013 00:45

I hope it's something that he wants to give up,that he is not being forced into that. I do wonder if it's a sign for plans of an imminent larger scale war with forced conscription that his family don't want him to get caught up in.

Butwilliseeyouagain · 13/09/2013 01:24

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SoupDragon · 13/09/2013 07:15

I wonder if Kate was instructed not to work given the shambles of Edward & Sophie's employment history.

littlemisswise · 13/09/2013 07:55

We all know LtEve had Harry not been a Royal it is highly unlikely he would have got to Sandhurst. He hasn't got the required amount of UCAS points for a start.

diddl · 13/09/2013 08:06

"William seems quite wet and spoiled"

I think that also-which is why I have this idea of Kate "coming good" as she hung around & went running.

And all this-"oh poor me, I'm going to be King & it's such a burden-but it's my duty that I am entitled to must fulfill or I'll let everyone down"

I don't think that W&K will be as astounding as everyone thinks.

FrankelInFoal · 13/09/2013 08:07

Harry did have the qualifications for Sandhurst - he got 2 A levels and 11 GCSE's. The requirement is 7 GCSES and 2 A-levels.

littlemisswise · 13/09/2013 08:18

It isn't Frankel it's 270 UCAS points, it used to be 180! Even if you join as a Soldier and want to transfer over to be an Officer later you still need those 270 UCAS points.

curlew · 13/09/2013 08:28

As a side issue, how thick and/or disengaged would you have to be to get a B and a D at A level at Eton?

kim147 · 13/09/2013 08:32

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LtEveDallas · 13/09/2013 08:36

We all know LtEve had Harry not been a Royal it is highly unlikely he would have got to Sandhurst

Not true Littlemiss. He was borderline, as are numerous other potential officers. He did fantastically well at Pre-RCB/RCB and that secured his place.

Lots of POTs get to RMAS that way, and then have to prove themselves. He proved himself in spades, and whilst they considered he would not have been able to join a 'Techincal' Corps or Trade, he was eminently suited to a Combat Arm, which is what he joined.

He then did his training with AAC, and came top in many of his technical exams, so again proved his knockers wrong.

The Army would lose a lot of potentially excellent fighting men and women if they relied solely on examinations and qualifications. The very best Officer I know, the 'only' one that I would follow blindly into battle hasn't a formal qualification to his name, but his tactical knowledge, experience and ability is quite simply outstanding.

Conversely, the worst officer I ever knew had a bundle of completely useless examinations and a degree in something like "Ancient French" He was a technical officer, a liability and quite simply a danger to everyone! Thankfully he was found out before he could do any damge Smile

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curlew · 13/09/2013 08:40

Oh, come in. Sandhurst wouldn't have looked at an ordinaryperson with a B and a D!

EdithWeston · 13/09/2013 08:43

Anyone else remember the TV series about those going through Sandhurst? One of the officer trainees was an ex-electrician with minimum qualifications. He did really well. It's not just the well connected who are selected on personal qualities, rather than educational level (and it works the other way round too, with graduates who are rejected).

StitchingMoss · 13/09/2013 08:48

littlemiss, you're missing the point entirely - what nonsense. No one is claiming that air sea rescue pilots don't work bloody hard but none of the rest of them get to piss off whenever they fancy, use their helicopters to ferry their brother to a stag do or work a massively reduced number of hours just because they're a prince.

It's not a tricky argument to follow.

LtEveDallas · 13/09/2013 08:51

Thank you Edith, nice to hear some sense!

I just predicted you'd come along and say that Well why wouldn't I, I mean, its the truth, why wouldn't you want to hear the truth?

I get being a Republican, I get that you don't like the idea of the Royal Family, but when smoke and mirrors, lies and rumours have to be used to bolster your opinion, it denegrates that opinion.

I'm being polite and factual, it's easier that way.

LtEveDallas · 13/09/2013 08:54

none of the rest of them get to piss off whenever they fancy

He gets 38 working days leave a year, the same as the rest of the military. Although as he is a shift worker it may well be that he works a 4 days on, 4 days off, 4 nights on schedule which would mean he has 'more' leave on paper, but not when it is worked out pro-rata - I'm not entirely sure how the ASR work it out.

littlemisswise · 13/09/2013 09:22

An 18yo straight out of school going into Sandhurst is incredibly rare, you know that LtEve. If my 18yo when to the Army Careers Office tomorrow with a B in Art and a D in Geography he would be told he does not meet the entry requirements. He wouldn't even get an interview. That is factual! There is a distinct difference between having the minimum entry requirements and not meeting them at all!

Stitching I agree with you about the fact he gets to piss off when he likes.

LtEveDallas · 13/09/2013 09:32

An 18yo straight out of school going into Sandhurst is incredibly rare

Rare as to be impossible littlemiss. He was 21.

curlew · 13/09/2013 09:32

"One of the officer trainees was an ex-electrician with minimum qualifications."

I think there might be a bit of a difference between a mature student with life experience being let in with less than the required qualifications, and an 18 year old, who despite being at Eton with all the opportunities that school provides still only managed a B and a D at A level...........!

LtEveDallas · 13/09/2013 09:39

and an 18 year old

Again, 21 year old.

Graduates make up 84% of the Sandhurst intake. Non-graduates the rest.

The ex sparky Edith refers to was 25.

curlew · 13/09/2013 09:45

Sorry 21 year old.

And of those non graduates, what is the minimum entry requirement?

grovel · 13/09/2013 09:51

35 ALIS points (34 for SCEs) from 7 GCSE/SCE subjects, with a minimum grade C/2 in English language, maths and either a science or a foreign language; plus 240 UCAS Tariff points from at least two A level passes grades A-E or SCE Higher grades A-D.

ImABadGirl · 13/09/2013 09:51

reading the oath of allegiance the LtEve posted bought back marvellous memories, just love the way civvies post on here when they haven't got a clue what they're on about!

curlew · 13/09/2013 09:58

So 160 UCAS points wouldn't do then?

Or is that something else "civilians" can't understand?

curlew · 13/09/2013 10:02

Maybe he has special stealth UCAS points that civvies can't see?