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AIBU?

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to expect otger coach passengers to move so I can sit with my baby?

128 replies

froken · 10/09/2013 19:25

wI recently got a coach from Heathrow to my home town.

I was travelling with my ds who is 8 months old, national express recommend that you bring a age appropriate car seat when traveling with a baby, they book you 2 seats under 1 booking.(it's very kind of them to give an infant an entire seat) we were one of the last to get on the coach and by tge time we arrived there were no seats together. There were lots of people sitting alone in a double seat.

None of tge passengers sitting alone in a double seat would move, I ended up threatening to leave the very grumpy teething out of routine baby next to a lady.

Eventually someone moved but I had to organise where he would sit and tge lady he was going to sit next to wasn't at all pleased that he was going to sit next to each other.

Aibu ( and an entitled mum) to think that people should move seats so a parent can sit next to their small child?

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hettienne · 11/09/2013 07:50

Why would someone move to general shouting if they wouldn't move after being asked personally?

MrsMook · 11/09/2013 07:51

So I'm sitting on my own on a coach and a baby in a car seat is put next to me. Do I a) do the polite thing and move despite a temporary inconvenience to myself, or b) stay put and risk having an upset baby whose mother can't help as she's halfway up the coach...
Think I know which is potentially more inconvenient aside from good manners.

catsmother · 11/09/2013 07:53

FFS - some of the selfishness described on this thread makes me spit. Let alone the notion that a BABY travelling in a compulsory car seat - which therefore requires its own coach seat - and preferably next to its mother, will therefore somehow grow up as "precious". Jeez - what effing ignorant shite!

Yes - given the choice I'd prefer a window seat like many others and not just because the view's pretty but because being able to expand my line of vision makes me feel less sick. However, I think a baby's safety kind of trumps my nausea, anxiety or whatever and I'd just bloody well have to put up with it. If I had to move I'd feel annoyed - but at the overall lack of choice (which I know is unreasonable in itself as how often do you get half empty coaches), and NOT at the mother who isn't being unreasonable in wanting to sit right NEXT to her child, and I certainly wouldn't make her feel bad by tutting and muttering at her.

As some other posters have said, this kind of thing not only makes me angry but very sad too in as much as "has it really come to this ?" Are so many people so bloody self-absorbed that they're incapable of showing any kindness and/or consideration to others ? You've paid for your seat - so what - so has everyone else .... since when does paying for something entitle you to be unfeeling towards someone with a genuine need ?

And well done to Wanda's driver !!! Cunts - exactly!

SilverStreak7 · 11/09/2013 09:07

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SomethingOnce · 11/09/2013 09:14

Did you get out of bed the wrong side this morning, Silver?

Crowler · 11/09/2013 09:18

I'm actually a bit scared of Silver.

A bunch of cunts on the train, indeed.

burberryqueen · 11/09/2013 09:19

god silverstreak, calm down, it is only lines on a screen...Confused

catsmother · 11/09/2013 09:49

Yes, you're entitled to your opinion - just as everyone else who's replied is entitled to theirs.

Doesn't mean we all have to agree with you though ...

.... when your opinion is a sad indictment of an unpleasant "I'm all right Jack, sod you" attitude.

Shame on you that you have no compassion .... "you should have left earlier" ergo it's your fault, not mine. How very understanding NOT. You have no possible way of knowing why anyone in greater need of your oh-so-precious seat might have arrived later than you did. Doesn't alter the fact that it'd be a kind thing to give it up so a mother can sit with her very young baby on a long journey.

Ironic isn't it, that you earlier proclaimed mothers who have the shocking temerity to wish to have their baby next to them (can't think of any good reason why on earth they'd want that Hmm) were in danger of raising precious children. Yet you and other selfish people like you would cling on to your seat as if your life depended on it rather than "suffer" a minor inconvenience which pales into insignificance against the safety and well being of an extremely young child. So who, exactly, is being precious now ??

TheBigJessie · 11/09/2013 10:12

But silver, don't you think that as a parent, she knows what she's doing by now and thus how to raise her child in a non-precious manner?

K8Middleton · 11/09/2013 10:39

I'm no more scared of silver than I am any other tantrumming nit wit.

Get some perspective love, this is the Internet. Not the UN.

Seaweedy · 11/09/2013 10:41

Dear me, Silver. I feel I must point out that it would be difficult for us to fuck off without our cunts. Unless some people have the detachable kind? That fasten in with Velcro or something.?

Theas18 · 11/09/2013 10:47

Of course they should move!

Maybe a cheery " you wont move, ah well I'm sure you'll love to have this little one on this seat next to you whilst I sit over there then" ....

ExitPursuedByADragon · 11/09/2013 10:50

Not the UN. Damn

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HuglessDouglas · 11/09/2013 10:52

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Theas18 · 11/09/2013 11:00

Op

Mind you, if you popped you baby next to me and sat else where, you'd probably be post on mums net about the scary middle aged old bat who was very happy to entertain your child for a couple of hours. I'd have loved it :) ( and I am CRB checked but I don't carry it on coach trips!)

WentOnABearHunt · 11/09/2013 11:26

people are mean. that is all. Whats wrong with just being a decent human who does something to make someone else life a bit easier as really, no real inconvenience to themselves.

SweetSeraphim · 11/09/2013 12:08

What BearHunt said.

I think Silver was maybe on the coach that day Wink

Damnautocorrect · 11/09/2013 12:39

No you were not being entitled I had this happen to me and luckily people moved for me.

Fleta · 11/09/2013 12:51

I cannot for a moment imagine what type of person wouldn't move for a mum and a tiny baby Confused

I once booked seats over the phone for a train, it was for me and my daughter who was then 3.

When I got to the station to collect, they'd booked us in separate coaches.

froken · 11/09/2013 12:56

I think silver was probably on the bus.

On the plane (which was pretty packed) they gave me an entire row to myself (that is too much special treatment in my opinion) I didn't ask for it but and it didn't really matter as ds slept the entire flight.

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Fairy1303 · 11/09/2013 13:00

Silver streak - so the OP should have put her child in danger so that other passenger could get a nice view of the M25??? Are you being serious?

Oh andim sure the passenger enjoying the window seat would have been more that able to change the nappy of, breast feed, and calm down a crying INFANT Who is separated from their mother.

OP, YANBU, I'm amazed that anyone would say you were. It is a sad world we live in.

Fleta · 11/09/2013 13:01

Next time froken DO make sure your plan lands absolutely on time - frightful bore of you to be late for the coach.

In fact, maybe you could offer to fly it yourself so you can get to the coach sooner - plenty of space for baby in the cockpit after all

Fairy1303 · 11/09/2013 13:07

On second thoughts, I'm warming to this. Next time say, 'oh, you want your window seat? Thanks SO much, I haven't slept in 8 months. I think he's pooed, here is the nappy bag. Here, bottle of milk. Thanks for your kind offer to look after him since I have to sit over there. I'll look forward to 5 hours uninterrupted sleep.

SweetSeraphim · 11/09/2013 13:07

Fleta Grin

theodorakisses · 11/09/2013 13:20

I would happily move to allow a grumpy 8 month old to sit at the other end of the coach, no offence but I love coach journeys and would rather be in a quiet section. I would have moved but I agree that if you need extra things it would be nice to at least try to get there early on so people don't have to play musical chairs once they are settled. I doubt you deliberately got there late through some bizarre sense of entitlement however, more likely rushing and frazzling trip from home with an 8 month old.