Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to ask how you would vote if there was a General Election tomorrow?

311 replies

coco87 · 10/09/2013 14:28

Ok, now I don't like any of the parties at the moment and they seem to be very similar (red Tories/blue Labour etc).

However, if there was a GE tomorrow I would vote Lib Dems because my local MP is Lib Dem and is really good, listens to voters and has done a lot of good work for the area. I don't rate them at a national level and don't agree with most of their policies but locally my MP (who just happens to be Lib Dem) is definitely the best choice.

Who would you vote for if there was a GE tomorrow?

OP posts:
Stillhopingstillhere · 11/09/2013 19:46

Oh god, I don't know.
I have no faith in any of them at all.

Labour got us into a terrible mess in lots of ways and yet I don't feel the Tories are doing a great job of getting us out.

I'd like to say more of them and yet that doesn't seem the answer either!

OneUp · 11/09/2013 19:50

Labour - I could never vote for the Conservatives and I'm seriously disappointed in the Lib Dems.

elcranko · 11/09/2013 19:59

Labour.

TSSDNCOP · 11/09/2013 20:01

TBF there were several Labour IT projects that went expensively tits up: UK passport system, NHS system. This latest Govt cock up is inexcusable but financially bite sized by comparison.

Add: all Govts will find the best IT provider to implement their initiative vs the cheapest to the Dream Manifesto.

Dawndonnaagain · 11/09/2013 20:08

TSS You are right, I had forgotten about the NHS one. Didn't know about the others. It seems nobody learns from their own mistakes, or the mistakes of others!

Herisson · 11/09/2013 20:10

I would happily vote for you, ZutAlorsDidier. I particularly like the dog bit.

MiniTheMinx · 11/09/2013 20:35

I'm confused by the dog bit Confused

I would build more social housing
Build more primary schools
Att state subsidised nursery ed to state primary schools
Take away the charity status of private schools and tax the Blx off them
Introduce means tested payments towards all education
Phase out tax credits
Do away with zero hrs contracts
Hike up the NMW
Introduce means testing for tuition fees
Nationalise the railways/gas/elec/buses
Regulate financial services and outlaw derivatives trading
Introduce the transaction tax
Close tax loopholes
Nationalise banks and ensure that lending is made available to small business, UK firms and co-operatives.
Investment into green energy
Stop the fracking.
More investment into the north
Stop this drive to build more housing in the south
Tax foreigners heavily when buying london properties
Bring back rent controls.

I could go on Grin

ihategeorgeosborne · 11/09/2013 20:46

Mini, how would you introduce means tested payments to all education? What would be your cut off point? As with all government means testing, it seems to be people in the middle that get walloped by that. A higher rate tax payer, with 3 kids for example would be really screwed, as they already are with so many other government policies. It wouldn't be worth earning above the cut off level being imposed.

Also, if we don't build more houses, where will everyone live? We need more houses.

HorryIsUpduffed · 11/09/2013 21:29

I would vote for anyone who set out in their manifesto how they actually intended to pay for what they were promising.

Because "oh there wasn't enough money" is a weak justification for not following through on the juicy manifesto promises.

MiniTheMinx · 11/09/2013 21:29

Its quite intentional. It would level out earnings and create pre-distribution as people would be happier to take smaller salaries but the top band needs moving and the top rate of tax needs to be much higher, again to prohibit CEO and managers from taking silly salaries and bonuses. We need to reverse the trend of the last 30 years which has seen top bosses now taking up to 400 x the salary of staff. As regards people choosing to have children, at the moment we have a Tory government that wants to effectively prevent working class people from having children with cuts to CB and welfare, caps to benefits and this scrounger propaganda. So what if higher rate tax payers choose to have one less child, paying into the state system for the two/three/four they have will ensure that all children benefit from more money being made available to improve state schools.

mrspremise · 11/09/2013 21:36

Lib Dem because our MP is really great, but if he quit then Plaid Cymru...

ihategeorgeosborne · 11/09/2013 21:42

Mini, You do realise that a higher rate tax payer earns just over 40k a year? After tax, that equates to less than 30k a year. That is only 4k more than the benefit cap. Why should they pay to send their kids to school in addition to the tax they already pay? I would be much happier to work less hard and earn less money, but house prices would have to fall considerably to enable us to do that, which would be no bad thing.

MiniTheMinx · 11/09/2013 21:57

The tax bandings would need to be reassessed, sure. We need more social housing and rent caps.

ihategeorgeosborne · 11/09/2013 22:09

We definitely need more social housing and rent caps mini. I also think multiple property owners should be taxed heavily. This would discourage houses being used as "investments". Perhaps more people could then afford to buy their own and they could become "homes" again. Property greed has sapped the life out of this country.

Hugglepuff · 11/09/2013 22:13

Can't vote Labour anymore - they took us into Iraq .
Can't vote Lib Dem anymore - they took us into coalition government.
Can't bring myself to vote Conservative.
Green it is then

Capitola · 11/09/2013 22:17

Conservative - after the mess Labour made of this country.

Trills · 11/09/2013 22:21

LibDem for the same reasons you list in your OP

beepoff · 12/09/2013 08:55

Anyone who says the Tories are only "cleaning up the mess the last lot left us in" could do with a few lessons in politics, history and economics.

You'll have no.10's spin doctors, speech writers and PR people high fiving with glee.

beepoff · 12/09/2013 09:01

But beepoff (and I'm not suggesting you're wrong, btw), spending as it was under Labour could not possibly continue. It couldn't. You cannot continue spending money you don't have! Whilst I'm not saying I agree with all their policies, whoever got in power this time round, was going to have to make deeply unpopular cuts.

Perhaps Ziggy but when the UN describes the bedroom tax as "inhumane" you know it's gone too far!

dreamingofsun · 12/09/2013 10:02

beepoff - i really don't see why its inhumane to provide people with the number of bedrooms they require.

Dawndonnaagain · 12/09/2013 10:12

Because dreaming that's not the way it's working. If you only require one bedroom, but cannot find one bedroomed accommodation, then you are expected to pay the bedroom tax. If you are disabled and your dialysis equipment is stored in another room, you are expected to pay, despite what Cameron et al promised, the disabled are expected to pay. If you need an extra room for a carer, you are expected to pay.
facts and figures within article
(Not Mail article).

IceBeing · 12/09/2013 10:15

Lots of people on here have noone left to vote for...

Time for the MN party I think...

Bramshott · 12/09/2013 10:16

Lib Dem

But with a heavier heart than last time.

Not that it makes much difference round here (dyed in the wool Tory heartland)...

MiniTheMinx · 12/09/2013 10:21

ihategeorgeosborne yes I agree, BTL landlords need to be taxed so heavily that it becomes almost impossible. A house should have a use value first and foremost and not be seen as either investment or means to take on more credit.

Beepoff Its amazing that governments use the UN to lobby for the human rights of Syrians as a way of gaining the consensus so we can bomb the crap out of somewhere. But the same UN is derided when its the UK government in breach of human rights. Double standard much?

PresidentServalan · 12/09/2013 13:46

Conservative - they are trying to sort out the shite that Labour left behind and are trying to reformthe benefits system.