To think this man at the cinema was plain nasty?

[WombatCat]

Dh and I watched a film at the cinema on Saturday night.

There was a young man a few rows back from us with very vocal Tourette's. Obviously it was distracting to most people around him, but once the film started I didn't find it an issue. However, one man decided to tell him to shut up and "isn't there a special showing you could go to?"

Quite a few people appeared to be in agreement with him. I now wish I said something.

There is some very bizarre views still raging on in this thread, I see.

How many more people are going to come along and educate the parents of children with SN that there are screenings they can 'take their DC's to'

Yes, keep them away from the rest of us, that way society can remain ignorant towards those with disabilities lets keep it as them and us, eh?! FFS.

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2ndryschoolmum2010 - if the HOH screenings are useful for your DS that's great, but someone with tourettes doesn't need subtitles and shouldn't have to be finding a screening with a more tolerant audience just so they can go to the cinema.

They should be able to go to any screening that suits them.

oh we have reported the concerns.

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"yes out of consideration to people that want to see the film that they paid for without those distractions!" to the question "should people with disablities causing them to make noise stay away from the cinema" are allowed.

Glad that's cleared up then.

OK, people with tourettes should be able to go to any screening that suits them. But apparently they will be devastated if people leave.

Why not, for their own sake, go to a HOH screening, where people are less bothered by noise and therefore less likely to cause offence by leaving?

Really, why not? It would be nicer for them that way, no?

You cannot stop people wanting to leave. It will always happen.

If someone was making too much noise for me to follow the film in a cinema I would leave, no matter who was making the noise. No point in staying if I can't follow the film.

I may well ask the manager if I could stay for the next showing on another screen. Our huge Showcase cinema is rarely full so I think the manager would be ok with that.

I want to say thank you to the people forced into the role of educators on this thread. I know you shouldn't have to, and I can't imagine how tiring and demoralizing it must be. But you have 'educated' me and I thank you for it.

I started out reading thinking it was fine for people to leave and get a refund as long as they did it quietly and politely. I don't think that now.

For those people still struggling, maybe the following line of reasoning might help.

Do you think the person in the OP suffering the Tourettes has the right to claim a refund on the basis that his own enjoyment of the film is being wrecked by his own condition?

Presumably people would think that unreasonable....

So the key question is why do you think anyone else has more of a right to enjoy the film uninterrupted than the person suffering the Tourettes?

If he doesn't have the right to a refund then noone else does either.

He gets to decide if it is worth going to the cinema knowing his enjoyment may be compromised by his condition. If he can't face that eventuality then he shouldn't go in the first place.

Everyone else gets to decide if it is worth going to the cinema knowing their own enjoyment may be compromised by someone else's condition. If they can't face that eventuality then they shouldn't go in the first place.

My local cinema doesn't have special HoH screenings because every screen is equipped with the facilities for hearing systems.

There is one, child centred autism, showing a month.

I went to the cinema last night. It was quite busy and quite noisy but all of that noise was from munching and slurping. Should I have left in disgust? Or should I be tolerant enough to realise that other people (whether they have disabilities or not) make a fucking noise.

It is so simple. If you can't tolerate other people making a noise, get the dvd and watch at home. That way people with Tourettes and any other slightly noisy disability can watch in the cinema in peace.

He does have a right to a refund though. If his experience was ruined and staff failed to act and didnt compensate in any way then absolutely he should get a refund and I hope he did!!!

I didn't say Strokey was a troll, I said she was goading.

So I have no idea why I was deleted.

Because her posts to Fanjo were goady.

I suggest HOH screenings (all films in the UK from all major studios are delivered with AD/HOH files that are compatable with all servers/projectors so cinema's can always play this option, although lower revenue of these screenings puts them off) simply to lower the chance of encountering pricks like the bloke who shouted in the OP. I did not say anyone should be discluded but mearly stated that if someone is noisy, for any reason, then people will inevitably be annoyed, even if they are tolerant. If my son, 16, who is both deaf and has severe SN is having a day where he is hyper or loud he doesn't understand when i try and quiet him so i take him to HOH screenings as most of the people there are far more tolerant, he actually enjoys it more and i don't have the stress of people tutting or being annoyed. He likes the lights and enviroment and I do take him to standard screenings sometimes when i know he is in a calmer mood, he doesn't need the subtitles and he is unable to follow them due to his SN but he enjoys the pictures/enviroment etc - When people are watching a film in the cinema I don't want to disturb their experience with constant loud noises -Some noise is acceptable and expected but if my son tries to tell me what's happening and is signing to me whilst talking loudly throughout the whole movie, which he does when excited sometimes, i would feel uncomfortable. It is about tolerance, but when watching a movie which costs alot of money, it's understandable that people become annoyed with constant noise, even if they are tolerant and can see my son has a disability.

Yes but there aren't any at my local cinema anyway.

Don't you think it would be better if people were just more tolerant?

of course, and most people are, it really depends on the amount of noise i guess, if it's occasional outbursts it's fine but if it's constant and loud then people, however tolerant they are, will be distracted and probably annoyed, even if they are understanding. It's not a disabilist attitude, it's just fact that any noise, wherever from, will be annoying if you are trying to concentrate. During an action film it may not be noticed so much but if it's a quiet dialouge based movie it will be less tolerated.

There is always a certain level of noise in a cinema, it's to be expected, but this is different to having someone shouting throughout the whole movie - Like i said before it's about balance and everyone being entitled to enjoy the movie. The lady in the OP was not bothered by it once the movie started so it was not that bad or loud but if it was constant and very loud, or if the outbursts were to include obscenaties in front of children, then i'm sure views would differ - it's all ok to say the cinema is for everyone but if you were actually there and someone was shouting in the seat behind you the whole movie (extreme case granted) then i'm sure your tolerance would wear thin - would you be upset with the person who obviously has a condition - no - but that would not stop your enjoyment being sacrificed, even if you understood they didn't mean to do it and you were tolerant.

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.

Martin Luther King, Jr.

Thanks for the lovely answers to my question. :)

I guess it does just sadly come down to what we all (parents of DC with disabilities) face then, doesn't it?

"What the Hell is wrong with your kid?" :(

To all of you with Tourettes, children with it etc you sound lovely and absolutely people I'd love to have in my cinema!

I may not be a fan of being touched but being randomly hugged would feel like somewhat of an honour

strokey - no-one is pretending they wouldn't notice - people have said they wouldn't be annoyed by it.

I don't think anyone has said they wouldn't notice but most decent people wouldn't get all het up and start walking out because of it.

referring to a persons disability as noise pollution is vile

Good point, Buss. That is an awful thing to say.

NOISE POLLUTION?! Seriously, what is wrong with you?

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