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Concerning DH's contribution to general running of the house?

42 replies

Puffykins · 08/09/2013 21:00

Seriously, I need some perspective on this:

DH quit his job in June, which I was delighted about, as both hours and pay were terrible and he didn't actually even enjoy it anymore so when he was at home he was in a truly awful mood due to being very depressed and was not remotely fun to live with. He'd stopped doing any sort of housework, or really interacting with the children much as he was so tired etc., and I was working hard myself trying to earn the extra that we needed while also doing all the childcare and the cleaning.

So, three months on, DH still hasn't decided on a plan of action (he did say that he needed some time to think about it) and while my life has in many ways become a lot easier as I have more time to work (I'm freelance, but what I earn does cover our costs, though it's not exactly fancy costs, iyswim.)

DCs are 3 and 1. 3 year old is admittedly exhausting, but has just started nursery every morning. I drop him off, and then continue with DD to whatever it is that we're going to be doing activity-wise (and I want to be doing this, and have deliberately organised work so that I can, to the extent that I often work late at night once the DCs are asleep), and return home with both children about 12 30 and hand them over to DH so that I can start work. So he has every morning free. They then both sleep for two hours, 1 - 3. Then I'm nearly always home/ available to help with bath time and bedtime, and, three afternoons a week, I take DS from 3.30 for his music lessons/ swimming lessons, and occasionally I'll take both children to playdates (when I can fit it in with work.) (DH has told me that if were responsible for getting DS to all these things, DS wouldn't to because DH doesn't think they're necessary. I do. We differ. And DS LOVES his classes.) One day a week DH doesn't have to do anything at all because we have a nanny that day who I've kept on because I'm kind of hoping that DH will get a job again one day and we'll need her, and she's brilliant and the children love her and I don't want to lose her. So, basically, DH only has to look after the children in the afternoons, four days a week, and very occasional mornings when I HAVE to work but then he only has DD who is easy peasy and a total dream to look after.

And yet I'm still doing most of the housework, too. Definitely all the laundry. I often get home and have to do all the washing up FOR THE WHOLE DAY, and pick up all the toys, etc. (probably about 50% of the time) He occasionally hoovers without being told to. He occasionally cleans the kitchen, but he'll do something like leave all the gross stuff in the plug so that I have to deal with it. He'll empty the bins if and when I remind him. He has yet ever to clean the bathroom. Every so often we have an argument, I cry, and he gets better at cleaning up after himself for about two weeks, and then it reverts. I'll happily get a cleaner, but not until he's got a job (and he hasn't actually applied for a single one, yet), as until then I'm just going to feel like I'm paying for everything so that he can just swan around half the day?

But if this was reversed, if he was a SAHM, would his modus operandum be able to be justified? I've never been a SAHM, I was a working from home mother every minute the children were sleeping in order to pay the mortgage every month, so I have to admit that I myself wasn't brilliant at doing the cleaning - also, I had both children all the time (well, once DD had been born, that is.) But still I made sure that the bathroom etc. was cleaned at least once a week.

I get that he's 'having a break', and figuring out life a bit so 'needs time to think', but equally I can't help comparing how much I achieved with how little he achieves . . . . Although he is really good with the children when he concentrates on them, and has been much more patient potty training DS than I would have managed to have been.

Sorry, this has turned into more of a rant than anything, and has got a bit long. I'm just feeling a bit murderous. Also, I think I'm feeling kind of jealous of all his spare time. I really want him to get a job. Not least because when he's at home he grazes all day, mainly on cereal, so there never seems to be any for breakfast.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 09/09/2013 01:13

I cannot get over the wearing the same clothes and eating off disposable plates while you were away. He should be fucking ashamed of himself.

Someone I love was married to a depressed, lazy, spoiled child, artist, never got a job, never did housework. He didn't eat cereal though so that is good.

evelynj · 09/09/2013 04:14

Oh dear. The sense of entitlement is just awful. Sit him down & say you're sorry that you should have been completely honest about it long ago but he needs to get his finger out & do all the jobs a it's utterly disrespectful to you if he doesnt. Ask if he thinks it's fair, write ALL the jobs that need done & frequency & assign them together, (mostly to him).

My dh likes to stat home when hes not working & doesn't see mportance in dc having playdates & getting out if the house. Try to make him understand rather than shrugging it off.

The paper plates I just awful, a teenager wouldn't do that.

If he doesn't up his game pronto you will become increasingly more resentful & your relationship will ho down the drain

Good luck

BlackholesAndRevelations · 09/09/2013 05:24

You're a total saint to put up with this. Read your posts again and imagine it was your best friend or sister putting up with a man like this. How you are not at breaking point I do not know. You basically pay all the bills and run the household by working three hours a day and the rest late into the evening/night. The rest of the time you (willingly and with pleasure of course) look after your children.

Your partner does pretty much fuck all except make you laugh and cook pasta.

Oh, oh... And he has money which he spends ON WHAT HE WANTS and nothing to do with you.

I've read the term "cocklodger" on here before but have never quite understood its meaning until now. Sorry Sad I moan about my partner not doing enough around the house but the difference is he busts a bollock to work long, hard hours to support us all and pay the bills. I'm failing to see your partner's contribution to family life.

MammaTJ · 09/09/2013 05:40

I think he's not keep on housework and He is talking about getting a job, but he's waiting for something he really wants to do so he doesn't re descend into depression.

He doesn't really like to do much! The situation is ideal for him atm and he won't change unless you force that change. In my opinion, he needs a damn good kick up the backside! This will involve a very straight talking conversation where you explain to the man-child in very simple words he can understand that he has to justify his existance in your life!

You just sound too nice! Stop being so nice and easy going!

MrsHoratioNelson · 09/09/2013 06:11

Some really good advice here, especially from arethere and wilson.

You say that you've unfairly painted him as idle and pointless, but I really don't think that's true. So he's not keen on housework? Who is?! Even those who say they like housework are, in truth, just more keen on housework than they are on mess and dirt.

I totally agree that sitting on his arse all day is just as likely to lead to depression as a job that's not fulfilling (and what is this magic job, anyway - is not like he hasn't had plenty of thinking time Hmm) and that a few weeks in the sharp end Inthe laundry basket might spark a sudden career epiphany.

Fair enough that you dont want him working in bars, but there are supermarkets, retail jobs, call centres. Crap, maybe, but at least he's making more of a contribution than he is now.

Puffykins · 09/09/2013 07:16

Thank you all. Point taken....

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Sparrowlegs248 · 09/09/2013 07:29

Just wanted add that i know just how you feel (minus the children) DH gave up his awful job, also in june. Had managed to save enough to be without work for 6 months. Also wanted 'a break'

I would leave the house at 7am and return at 7.30pm to find last nights washing up still there for me to do before cooking dinner. I said nothing for a fortnight then we had to have words. The issue didn't get entirely resolved as a job fell into his lap. Thank christ. Its not long term though so am preparing myself for next time.

The thing i hate is having to tell them what needs doing. No one tells me!!

ZillionChocolate · 09/09/2013 07:54

I'm not keen on housework, neither is anyone else I know. I'm less keen on living in squalor. I'm also not so keen on having a job, but they seem kind of essential.

When I moved in with DH we drew up a list of what needed doing every week and how long it takes. Then we took it in turns to select jobs, which apart from putting the bins out, could be done whenever we chose. I'd suggest you do the same, but you don't take on jobs until he's selected enough to fill the time you spend doing paid work (inc travel).

NeedlesCuties · 09/09/2013 09:00

So you have a nanny and are weighing up the options of getting a cleaner too.... yet your DH sits scratching his balls and drawing pictures all day every day?

Confused

I think we live in very different worlds. I'm a SAHM while my DH works 8am-6pm 5 days a week. I do all the childcare (kids are the same age as yours), all the organising for social and family commitments, all the housework and cooking.

He is taking the rip, seriously.

TheFuzz · 09/09/2013 09:35

I work full time as a 'bloke' and my DW part time. I do more than he does !

Needs to get off his ar$e ! Mornings off ! Wow. Lucky man.

MsVestibule · 09/09/2013 09:41

I can't believe that the thing you're most bothered about us that he eats all the cereal!!! Are you concentrating on the least worst problem so you don't have to deal with the fact that your DH is seriously taking advantage of the fact that he knows you're besotted with him so will put up with the seriously disrespectful way he treats you?

Any man who allows his wife to bring in all the money, do a lot of the childcare and all the housework while he spends his unearned income on himself and play Candy Crush is not worth having. But sadly, you will continue to put up with it because he won't change (why should he? He's got a cushy family life without contributing anything) and you won't ask him to leave.

Almostfifty · 09/09/2013 09:52

I'd write down exactly what you do all day, and what he does. Then show it to him. It should be enough to shame him.

sameoldIggi · 09/09/2013 10:50

Regarding his income covering what he wants without having to work - he does have to work, his trust fund is not enough to keep himself, partner and the dcs is it? He seems to be viewing it as pocket money. A lot of men seem to remain a teenager in outlook even once grown up, but he really is taking the biscuit.

petalsandstars · 09/09/2013 10:52

Sorry but this would be a deal breaker for me. You are basically a single parent with a baby sitter. I could have no respect for a man acting like this.

Writerwannabe83 · 09/09/2013 10:56

On Puffy - take a step back and look at the situation through the eyes of someone else....and listen to what you're saying to excuse his behaviour.

With regards to looking for work: It's only been 3 months..... Shock
3 months is a very long time!!
And so what if he wants to do something he really loves, wouldn't we all?!

He is selfish and lazy and as much as I hate the term, you are acting like a bit of a door mat...

You need to give him a kick up the arse and say enough is enough!!

TheFuzz · 09/09/2013 11:04

List of jobs that need doing, he has time in-between kids stuff etc.

Needs a routine, so morning, clear up after breakfast, quick tidy up and hoover, washing in and dry, ironing done.

Little and often. Needs kicking into touch. Bloody hell, I was doing more than this after surgery whilst I was off sick from work. I could still manage to wash up, do the laundry, hoover, bit of DIY, collect kids from school, and that's after surgery.

If I have a day off, it's usually to look after the kids during holidays. Allows me to catch up on jobs round the home too ! Be nice to play on a phone all day and to 'draw'. I think my wife would have something to say if I jumped on my bike and cycled all day, without doing the 'jobs'. They need doing first.

Easy life indeed.

Pilgit · 09/09/2013 11:09

In answer to the query regarding SAHM - i.e. would this be acceptable in reverse. No of course not. I know a SAHM where her husband works long hours and she does sweet FA around the house - literally nothing. She doesn't cook, clean, tidy, do laundry, deal with the garden, bins etc. He does it all when he gets home from work. Yes, she is looking after the DC and that is hard work but their set up does not seem equitable to me as he only gets a chance to sit down gone 10 in the evening (he does the bulk of the childcare when he gets home as well). I don't know why he puts up with it but they seem happy! Obviously I have never said anything but it really winds me up. I am not of the opinion that the SAHP should do all the housework but that it should be equitable. If one partner doesn't believe it is, there is a problem.

He is taking the piss and needs a kick up the arse. He's taking a break from paid employment not family life!

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