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AnneNonimous · 08/09/2013 17:08

Haven't even name changed...eeeek

I am slowly trying to start my own business. Slowly because I don't have enough money, don't yet have enough equipment and am a lone parent.

I have seriously been considering taking up online webcam work to earn extra money to buy the equipment I need.

I have checked out a few websites, you can block certain countries from seeing you so nobody I know would have to find out! Getting undressed is not necessary and infact banned on some sites outside of 'private shows' and I could do it as and when I want (ie when DS is in bed)

Have I completely lost my mind or does it make sense?

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Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 05:31

1)I've never claimed to be doing camwork because of poverty, I am quite aware of relative poverty, thank you.
2)The part where you speak about the dangers of ageplay, if somebody goes out and hurts a child-that is not something that can be prevented by refusing to do ageplay on cam.
If anything, an outlet for that sort of fantasy makes it less likely for anybody with such tendencies, to want to fuel their satisfaction by hurting anybody.Most men who like ageplay, are not peadophiles-they are men who like ageplay.
3)That last point you make, what has that got to do with anything really?One person was (perhaps)doing something sexual with children in the room. Bad as this is,(IF It's true!) it has nothing to add to what we're talking about, I doubt the OP would do that, nor would I, nor would any camgirl I know or speak to.

ohshitimlate · 10/11/2013 09:15

Sorry to resurrectbut just got chance to catch up.

Forgetting the rest of it did you actually just justify "ageplay" as in no way lonked to paedophilia?

Really?

If you do that, if you pretend to be a kid to get men off then that blows any justification you have out of the water and is fucking disgraceful.

fifi669 · 10/11/2013 09:51

Surely it depends on the age of the age play? I'm sure quite a few of us have dressed up as the naughty school girl etc for our DPs?

ohshitimlate · 10/11/2013 10:45

No I haven't and wouldn't!

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 12:36

Sorry please explain, do you think men who like the schoolgirl look are all paedophiles , or have tendencies?

There's a **ing lot of paedophiles around if that's the case!

There is a big difference between somebody who likes a woman to dress as if she's younger, and somebody who will actually go out and rape children.

Grennie · 10/11/2013 16:40

Why wouldn't men want women to pretend to be a school girl if they weren't turned on at the thought of having sex with a schoolgirl?

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 17:10

I can't effectively answer that, being not a man.
It's such a popular fantasy. I'm not just talking camsite activity here, I'm talking porn in general, fetish clubs, general fashion for 'girls' nights out', fancy dress, what goes in between two people in the privacy of their bedroom.
I'm sorry, I just don't support the theory that every single man that is turned on by an adult woman in a school uniform, is of a tendency to have sex with a child.

NorfolkInGood · 10/11/2013 21:45

I've done the uniform thing with DW as we've been together since school so it's a throw back to the old days when all you had to worry about was not getting caught by our parents. I would imagine it might remind some men of losing their virginity?.

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 22:07

I think the bottom line is, (some) men find an adult woman in a school uniform sexual..This doesn't equal that a child in a school uniform (or child at all!)=sexual.

Grennie · 10/11/2013 22:11

Why would a man be attracted to a woman in a school uniform and trying usually to look younger?

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 22:20

I don't know Grennie, there are several theories around it.
I'd need to do a survey and ask men, not women.
I do not believe that every man who does has tendencies though.

Perhaps It's to do with youth=fertility=attractive?
Maybe it implies submission?
Maybe the 'naughty' school girl is the significance, rather than the supposed age?

Being sexually attracted to an adolescent is not the same as paedophilia , either-medically It's different. Don't get me wrong, I don't endorse it!

Paedophiles are attracted to children.

Grennie · 10/11/2013 22:24

So men attracted to women wearing school girl outfits may be sexually attracted to adolescents?

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 22:38

I think a ephebophilia is usually an exclusive sexuality, i/e that person will not be attracted to people of adult age, at all.
I guess many of them would suppress, having relationships with an adult and perhaps wanting them to wear school uniform, or doing other forms of ageplay?
Again though, this fantasy being so popular-ephebophilia is NOT know to be that popular.
It isn't a regular thing, but I've worn school uniform for partners before. It's just been a different scene for them-I'm an ADULT. They think It's cute/sexy?Maybe reminded them of being young and carefree?Kind of like what Norfolk says.

They wouldn't go anywhere near a child/adolescent.

Another kettle of fish to open is, even if a guy has ephebophilic tendencies , which is wrong by societial rule and our set of morals, does this mean he would actually action it?

Grennie · 10/11/2013 23:09

I think a lot of men are attracted to adolescents. I reallyddon't think it is rare at all.

Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 23:20

How do you mean?Attracted in that they'll leer at young girls?
Or watch teen porn etc?

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 10/11/2013 23:26

"AgePlay"

AgePlay ? Age play?

I've fucking heard it all now.

there is a commonly accepted term for this, and people use it like they would use "flower arranging" or "jam roly poly" ?

ChristAllFuckingMighty, the knots that people will tie themselves in just so that these men can get an orgasm. Have you heard yourselves ? Really ?

iFad · 10/11/2013 23:29

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Sunflower49 · 10/11/2013 23:47

Thank you, iFad.

I did make an informed choice, to be a camgirl and I did do my research and a lot of thought went into that choice.

The reason I have researched about sexual deviancy is my MA is in psychology.

Child porn and ageplay are two VERY different things.
Violence is one fantasy I won't indulge (as mentioned above).Really not comfortable with it.

iFad · 10/11/2013 23:53

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Sunflower49 · 11/11/2013 01:02

Get a buzz out of it are you joking?
I find it the most boring thing in the world 99.9% of the time.(I'm sure I've said that earlier in the thread).
It just suits me at the moment in terms of money, lifestyle,mindset.

MistressDeeCee · 11/11/2013 01:30

In the main I think violent sexual crimes are committed by those already predisposed to be that way. With or without porn theyd do it, as thats what they want to do. I wouldnt consider camming but had a couple of friends back in Uni days who do it, and I didnt think any less of them for it. Just as I dont think all men who look at porn will go on to be violent sexual predators. Those that do, are that way already.

NarcissaPoetica · 11/11/2013 01:32

I did this on and off for a period years ago. I was not desperate for the money - rather, I got off on phone sex and cam-sex and suddenly realised:

  1. I could make some money doing something I was already doing for free; and
  2. I could make money doing something that fulfilled my sexual desires at the time.

I started when it was just taking off in the mainstream, and would make circa £600 in one week for about 8 hours of "work". I built up a following, and whether they were single or not never crossed my mind - thinking back, a number of them were clearly not single (though there were a few whose girlfriends/wives would join in ...) The thing was, it was just some more fun for me, given that I still indulged in phone sex and cam-sex for free.

The money went on the same thing - nights at Fever, KK and Les Chandelles ... all of which I had already been frequenting. I was young, self-absorbed, reckless and (to put it mildly) a sex addict.

I am now a well educated, handsomely remunerated and respected professional who works in the City - go figure (though they say if you want an education in psychopaths, look at those who work in the City ...)

I am NOT representative of the women that did it then/do it now. I never needed the money. It was nice to spend, but it made no difference to me how much I made or if I made any - I would still have been (and still was) doing exactly the same thing unpaid ...

If it's something you want to do, then go for it - just don't be naive. It's now a saturated market with a more demanding clientele, and your clear hesitation/need for the money makes it likely you might end up hating it or yourself.

Sunflower49 · 11/11/2013 02:07

That's a refreshing post, Narcissa,It's good to have been so successful at something you enjoy!

Just need to say, my post above where I said I didn't get a buzz out of it, and found it boring-I hope it didn't sound as if I judged people who DO get a buzz out of it, I certainly don't-in fact sometimes I wish I did do it would make work a lot easier!

Doing it for the money is a mis-defined way of looking at it. The money isn't that good now.

Mistress, I agree entirely with your post. Outside forces are rarely a significant influence on those who commit terrible crimes.

SlangKing · 11/11/2013 03:49

Mistress is absolutely right. A low percentage of people (less than 5% ) lack empathy, and only a minority of those are violent sadists. All evidence suggests such personalities are established in early childhood, long before encountering porn or violent movies. Hence why killers/rapists frequently have histories of animal cruelty. Porn/movies can give those people ideas they might not've had otherwise but it cannot remove empathy from those who have it. To repeat what I said in another thread recently, only a small percentage of paedophiles are child-molesters, just as only a small percentage of hetero men are rapists. Whatever our fantasies, most of us will live without them - or make do with porn approximations - rather than resort to coercion and/or violence to have them fulfilled. A negative view of women is born of poor rearing and education, NOT because of the antics of pornstars and webcam amateurs. Exploitation within that industry is a different debate. If she's not coerced or threatened, any woman who wants to perform on webcam should be allowed to just as those opposed to such performance, public or private, retain that right. Neither party should have to justify themselves to the other. Such is the diversity of human nature. So long as people are freely exercising their choices that's their business. Again, it's not 'webcam woman's' fault if guys who watch her masturbate assume all women will do that for them. That's a (male) education problem that needs to be tackled in sex ed' class if it isn't already. Blaming porn for negative attitudes to women is as simplistic and ignorant as blaming immigrants or the unemployed for the economy.

iFad · 11/11/2013 07:23

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