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To think size 12 is not "heavy"

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CruCru · 30/08/2013 18:51

I keep seeing comments on here from people who are size 10/12 who think they are heavy. I would never think this is even remotely heavy, just a healthy slim size.

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PiddlingWeather · 01/09/2013 15:48

OK I've read most of the thread and still haven't got a definitive answer

I'm 5'6, size 12, 36 C boobs, broad shoulders and long legs, eat healthily, don't smoke, rarely drink and exercise, though I'm not exactly toned or anything.

Am I fat?

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 15:48

Actually that's a bit unfair to worra usually-she hasn't been nasty on this thread.

WorraLiberty · 01/09/2013 15:49

Then read my post again Pinup

I posted only the FACTS

Nowhere did I say I was certain they died due to being overweight

But the FACT is they don't have many overweight friends left

And as I said in the post, seeing my Dad today got me thinking about it.

usuallyright · 01/09/2013 15:49

worraliberty, unless you have access to your parents friends death certificates, you can't and don't know that their weight killed them and it's disingenuous at best, tasteless and disrespectful at worst, to suggest otherwise.

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 15:50

No I don't think you sound fat piddling but other posters on here would probably believe you were not only fat but bordering on obese. Its their problem-not yours. You sound lovely to me.

I am a similar size and build by the sounds of it although with bigger norks-36e-and I am a 16 in clothes. I know I am a wee bit fat but it concerns me not in the slightest.

WorraLiberty · 01/09/2013 15:51

I think it's far more disrespectful for you to ate categorically that all those people died because they weren't thin.

Read my post again ffs

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 01/09/2013 15:52

People who claim to have read everything that's been carefully said and argued but can only translate it as 'fatties are horrid', Usually, are the ones who haven't got a coherent argument and can't be debated with!

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 15:52

Calm down worra-this thread is getting way too serious.

usuallyright · 01/09/2013 15:53

Pinup, she's using anecdotal examples and half baked opinion to underline what appears to be some kind of implicit prejudice against anyone larger than a size 8 and that may or may not be 'nasty' but it's sure as hell silly and crass.

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 15:56

I thought my argument was perfectly coherent nit?-be happy in who you are whether that is thin,inbetween or fat. Surely that is all that matters at the end of the day?

Imo diets make you miserable and in the long term they don't work. Eat well,exercise moderately and live happily. Weightwatchers,low carb,5/2-all fads designed to part you with your cash. Wise up.

usuallyright · 01/09/2013 15:57

my last word in this silly silly depressing debacle of a debate:

Get this:(available in all good book shops
and libraries and is the closest you'll ever get to the absolute truth of the matter on this subject)
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/0099481936/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1378047331&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

timidviper · 01/09/2013 16:04

worra My experience is absolutely the opposite of yours. In my parents' families, on both sides, it was the heftiest sibling who outlived the skinnier ones.

The trouble with both of our experiences is that the plural of anecdotes is not data so they are both interesting but, in the grand scheme of things, are meaningless.

higgle · 01/09/2013 16:05

I'm 5'3" and a size 12 in top half clothes because I have wide shoulders and large rib cage. I'm at the very top of the "healthy weight" band. Now, I do remember being 11 1/2 stone a couple of years back and fitting into size 8 trousers from Peacocks - it does depend on what make of clothes you are looking at - Asda/George 12s are huge, Karen Millen are tiny.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 01/09/2013 16:07

Which would be a useful point to make, Pinup, if this were a thread about whether dieting is a good idea or not Confused.

However, it is a thread about whether or not you can be 'heavy' at size 12, which I think it's tolerably clear that you can, if you are quite short.

Being overweight isn't a healthy option, any more than being underweight. Which is another point people have made.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 16:07

No pinup. I don't smoke or drink. I'm not an idiot. Like I said -smoking and drinking would both be illegal if it wasn't for the tax take.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 01/09/2013 16:09

I however do both - ah shit, now I've totally negated the argument I made that fatties are horrid and they're all going to die of fat. Bugger Sad.

higgle · 01/09/2013 16:09

P.S. I work with older people and when you are 75+ you tend to do better if you are not super skinny ( though obviously not if you are obese) as any run of ill health when people are off their food or can't eat as usual is devastating if you have no reserves.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 16:10

Pinup we all know you love yourself. You keep telling us. And the only person who has called you a fatty is you. I certainly haven't. Not once.

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 16:13

And whats wrong with loving yourself Russian?-surely we should all love ourselves? I really don't get your problem with that.

Yes I have said I know Im a bit fat-just as I know how confident and attractive I amGrin It seems to have got under other people's skin for some reason I cant fathom.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 16:17

Nobody has said they have a problem with you loving yourself.

It gets a bit boring reading you telling us about it all the time though.

Talkinpeace · 01/09/2013 16:17

higgle
so true : watching a friend die of pancreatic cancer - he was lean and healthy so had no reserves when his body stopped digesting fats
that extra half stone might have saved his life.
Which is why I like being slim but not skinny ....

I don't smoke but I do drink
BUT
I plan to make it to old age fit enough to be the one taking younger members of my family on outings, rather than the other way round.
Is that such a bad thing to aim for?

My grandmother was admitted to hospital age 92 and they were gobsmacked that she had all her own teeth and took no medication other than thyroid pills.
My target.

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 16:21

Eh you have repeatedly said that I cant be as confident as I make out Russian?-why are you now contradicting yourself? You inferred that my repeating my self confidence was a sign of a lack of it-I denied that because its bollocks. If I were going to lie on here then surely I would have said I was a size 8,6ft supermodel?Grin

If the thread is boring you-don't read it or even better hide it. It is clearly irking you again.

PicardyThird · 01/09/2013 16:27

Bemused by all these shorter people saying they would be fat if they were a 12. Am 5'1, a 10 all over and slim. Not skinny, but very definitely slim. I can only imagine that this has to do with people's perceptions of fatness.

RussiansOnTheSpree · 01/09/2013 16:27

I'm not the one with the issues. Grin

Pinupgirl · 01/09/2013 16:29

There you go again with the "issues" Russian-why are you so determined that I have you? Anyway I thought we called it quits so why you still sniping?