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In thinking MIL is seriously overstepping

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 05:25

I have posted similar before.

DSD(8) lives with us. Before me DH was a young single parent so MIL helped him a lot. As a result I have been more lenient with her blatant disregard for our family life.

We also have a 9 week old DS.

These things seem small, but she often lets herself into my house. She makes a beeline for DSDs room ( often with a brief you don't mind do you?... Over her shoulder), cleans it up, collects her laundry, makes her bed.

DSD went to stay for a few days over hols. Decided she didn't like a belt on some trousers. MIL "oh DSD says she doesn't like belt, so I have kept it." Why? Why not send it home and let me deal with it??

She 'popped' round today, asked me if she could take the children's washing home. Was visibly surprised and annoyed when I said I'd done it. Just to point up here - I'm not the type to have mountains of laundry piling up, she will literally leap on a few pairs of pants.

She also said "by the way, I'd you know the baby has a drs app on tues? I saw the note in your nappy bag. Who does she think made it????!!!

I may be sleep deprived over sensitive but this is lik, every other day. She is overstepping the mark isn't she??

It is constant. I feel that she thinks I am incapable, which I'm not.

Oh and we have lived together for 4 years now so I'm hardly new on the scene!

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Fairy1303 · 04/09/2013 11:09

Sorry for the silence.
Things well and truly blew up. It was bloody awful. FIL said that MiL very very unwell and we had triggered it.
She feels extremely pushed out of everything,particularly as DSD is back to school and she would have liked to have been more involved. She tried desperately to get me to hand over all uniform for her to 'mark' and was upset that I had treated DSD to a one direction bag for school as she is too young and she had wanted to get her one.

We went to see my mum this weekend and that also triggered her freak out, she says that she is not allowed to see DSD and baby but my mother - who is not even biologically linked to DSD and is 'nothing to do with her' is allowed to have us to stay for a weekend.

She is sending me an almost constant barrage of text messages with various rankings about this that and the other.

I have told her that I think she needs to see doc.

To top it all off, Hv has said that she thinks I have PND which explains a lot to me so I really don't need this shit.

DH has spoken to her and said that it is completely inappropriate, irrational and ridiculous and she needs to leave me be. I'm conscious though that I don't want her to know about the PND - I don't want to fall into her DIL has given me depression' camp, and also that I don't want her to know about this. I don't want to confirm her suspicions that I am a crap mother who can't cope.

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EldritchCleavage · 04/09/2013 11:36

Oh, blimey, sorry to hear it.
But it seems that any mothering of DSD by you (marking her uniform, getting her a treat) is going to be characterised as wrong, unreasonable, pushing MIL out. That's so wrong-headed and unfair, it's actually quite hard to get to grips with it. It does show how important it is to stand firm on this now though. I feel sorry for you MIL but if you let this carry on it would damage your family unit (not to mention, drive you mad).

I'm glad that your DH is dealing with it and supporting you. Sounds as though you're both doing all the right things: ignore the emotional blackmail, restate the boundaries.

Perhaps you need to block her texts for a while, while you get to grips with the PND thing?

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Dejected · 04/09/2013 11:39

I am delurking to say YOU ARE NOT A CRAP MOTHER at all! PND doesn't equal crap mother at all so please please don't think that.

I am so pleased to hear that your DH is supporting you. Can you block her number on your phone or if not, just delete her texts without reading them? Failing that can your DH ask her to contact him not you in future?

I really hope you are ok and can enjoy time with your family FlowersCakeWine

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HumphreyCobbler · 04/09/2013 11:44

Your PND is none of her business and she needs to know nothing about it. I am sorry you are ill, it really sucks but there is help out there.

It is great that your DH is so on board. Your MIL is really throwing all her toys out of the pram but it is rightly getting her nowhere. I would ignore all unreasonable communication from her, just block her texts. You do not need this right now and you can take steps to remove her aggression from your life until you feel you want to cope. Your DH is doing a good job of communicating the essentials, you don't have to be involved.

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LadyClariceCannockMonty · 04/09/2013 11:44

I agree, block her.

Your DH needs to keep supporting you ? I'm glad he is.

And you're not a crap mother and you ARE coping. If you have PND then you're ill. You will get support for that from your hv, doctor and your DH I'm sure.

Chin up and the MIL can fuck right off. Thanks Cake

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AgathaF · 04/09/2013 11:58

What a piece of work.

You are not a crap mother - PND is about hormonal imbalances etc following childbirth, not about you personally. It can and does happen to anyone,whether they be rich or poor, good or bad, etc, etc. She has no reason to know about it. It is your business, not hers.

I'm so glad your DH is supporting you and trying to protect you.

It's outrageous that she is bombarding you with texts. If you can't get her number blocked, is it possible to change your number? Or just let DH read and delete/act upon texts as appropriate without you even looking at them?

Would a strongly worded letter telling her that unless she acts appropriately around you all as a family, and respects boundaries both personally and within your home, you will, as a family, have no option but to withdraw contact from her until such time as she can?

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prettybird · 04/09/2013 12:53

She really does think that the world revolves around her, doesn't she?! Shock

You did not cause her depression if indeed she has it . It is her over reaction to you doing your own (natural) things as a family and her inflated expectation about how much she should be involved that may have caused it. Or it might just be her throwing her toys out of her pram! Wink

PND is not being a bad mum - it is a physiological condition caused by hormones being out of balance after having a baby. Being a good mum is dealing with it (if you are aware of it), trying to deal with feeling overwhelmed (if you are undiagnosed) and just by the fact that you want to be a good mum. You are obviously doing a good job as you are sorting out your dsd for school - and getting her nice things like her new school bag, as well as doing her washing when it hasn't been stolen Wink. This at the same time as coping with a new born.

This is not the time to have to cope with a grown-up toddler having a tantrum.

Block her, leave your dh to deal with her and FiL(from the sound of it, he is being really supportive :)) and wait twenty years until she has grown up a bit.

And don't you dare feel guilty about going to see your own mum - you don't need to justify yourself to anyone! :)

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pumpkinsweetie · 04/09/2013 13:00

God this woman just gets worse, she thinks she can dictate what school bag dsd has and wants to mark her uniformShock bloody hell, christ on a bike she needs help pronto!

Maybe you do have pnd, maybe you don't, either your mil is causing it or she is stressing you out so much the hv thinks you have it.

Block her number or change your number, it will be the best thing you ever did!

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eatriskier · 04/09/2013 13:15

oh dear. I'd hoped no news was good news. you are right, she needs to see a medical professional.

here's some bad but fun advice. every time she texts you forward it back to her. see how long it takes her to notice Wink . seriously though get yourself a new cheap phone on payg and get your phone company to swap the numbers. give those you care about the new no, they can keep the old number - you can switch the phone off all day or leave it on silent. your dh can read them when he gets home and deal as appropriate.

you are not forcing your mil out, though her actions may. it does not have to be an all or nothing situation but this is how she sees it. these things are not your problem. you are doing a very good thing for your dsd as she will get confused eventually. also if mil has form and has ruined her relationship with her other kids, she is probably trying to replace them with DSD and do you really want DSD going through that?

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MissMarplesBloomers · 04/09/2013 13:53

Exactly what eat said, get a cheap PAYG you cna swap the sims & leave the old one with your DH 7 let him deal with them.

You are SO doing the right thing, for you all as a family, for DSD as she grows up , but most of all for the increasingly close relationship you are having with her which sounds like it has been difficult but is now paying off and she deserves this closeness as do you and the baby.

Your DH is being brilliant glad he is standing up to the old bag!

gentle on the PND - been there twice, not good, do what you have to do to get through, cuddle your scrummy little babe & enjoy your family without guilt, it will pass, don't refuse any help, it will pass.

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5madthings · 04/09/2013 14:00

oh dear she really is deluded!

you are NOT a.crap.parent at all!! that is the pnd talking, you are doing great in spite of a crazy mil!

dh needs.to.keep.standogn up.to her.

ignore.ignore ignore. if you wamt.her to see kids maybe offer to.meet at park etc so she cant intefere xxx

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mrspaddy · 04/09/2013 14:15

Hope you feel better soon op.. Look after yourself and make sure you do nice things that you enjoy and try not to let her ruin this special time for you. Not fair how you are being treated. Why not book nice hair appointment or something to look forward to.. Defo change the number!!!

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squoosh · 04/09/2013 14:27

I've read this thread in horror! You have been so gracious in your dealings with her, she truly is deluded and a narcissist. I'm happy for you that your DH is supporting you completely.

Stay strong, she definitely doesn't need to know about your PND. She sounds like the kind of witch that would use it against you for years to come.

Good luck, you sound as though you're an amazing Mum to both your kids.

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Viking1 · 04/09/2013 14:38

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mynameismskane · 04/09/2013 15:50

You ARE NOT A CRAP MUM! She is a deluded, sick woman and you have been amazingly restrained! Don't - don't, don't, don't, get sucked in by ANYTHING she says!

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fluffyraggies · 04/09/2013 16:05

It's the PND making you doubt yourself. (hug) And MIL is adding to it.

You are not a crap mum.
You are not a crap mum.
You are not a crap mum.

You are a wonderful mum :)

I hesitate to say this - but the escalation of her madness behaviour is at least proving what you knew all along - that there is something wrong with her, not you.

It was borderline stuff before maybe. At the beginning of this thread there were some posters on the fence about her actions.

No doubt about it now OP! You have every right to keep her well at arms length for your and your families sake. It's a sad situation - but at least now it's obvious to anyone with an oz of sense that you are so not the one being unreasonable.

Block her no. and let DH deal with her.

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Squitten · 04/09/2013 16:10

I've just read the whole thread with my mouth hanging open! She is really determined that you are not going to be any sort of parent to that girl, isn't she?! She really does sound a bit unhinged...

All you can do now is step back from her TBH. She seems hell-bent on continuing to behave this way and nothing either you or your DH are saying to her is having the slightest effect. I wouldn't respond to any of these messages and just let her stew until she (hopefully!) comes to her senses. I wouldn't let her in the house under any circumstances. Definitely don't tell her about the PND - it's irrelevant to this particular situation and she'll just try to use it against you.

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2rebecca · 04/09/2013 17:25

I think your husband needs to firmly tell her that if you push someone their natural response is to either back off or push you back and this is what is happening here. She has to accept she is not her grand daughter's parent and stop expecting to be treated like one and back off and stop being so unpleasant and demanding and self centred.

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Quangle · 04/09/2013 17:53

Wow. To be honest, the "depression and insomnia" bit just made me want to laugh

What a self-obsessed nutcase. OP you have done a sterling job in horrific circumstances. I can't really get beyond coming into your house and taking things because she "thought you wouldn't need them" - Shock

I'm not entirely sure your DH shouldn't be handling all of this but to be honest it sounds like she's too much for him so you end up handling it. This is why MIL/DIL issues blow up - because the people who should be managing it (DHs and also in this case FIL) take a back seat.

Stay firm OP - you are not wrong about any of this. Help is fine but she's not helping - she's manipulating all of you.

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auntpetunia · 04/09/2013 18:43

She's a bloody psycho! She needs medical help. You are not a crap mother! She has serious issues. I agree cheap paygo phone and swap sim into it, and just ignore it.

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UnicornsNotRiddenByGrownUps · 04/09/2013 18:59

You're a good Mum, you are selfless and care so much about your little family. Your MiL is a crazy lady who sounds very narcissistic. My Mum can be like this and no matter what happens it has to be all about them.

(Example from this week: I was very ill, mentioned it to my Dad when he phoned about something.... Mum then calls back and proceeds to stay on the phone for 45 mins. Very woe is me because I didn't inform her and why do I never tell her anything.... Hmm)

Fairy would you like to come hide in my house? I have doors that lock and no-one else has the key SmileSmileSmile

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Katisha · 04/09/2013 19:35

Gosh she's spectacular. Glad DH is on board and not going for he quiet life route, but disappointed to see FIL is busy enabling.

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KoalaFace · 04/09/2013 19:48

Shock What a self involved, self obsessed specimen she is!

You'd think she'd be so pleased to have you in DSD's life, looking after her and giving her a nice, stable family home. Instead she is dwelling on what she wants. Selfish.

I'm so sorry you're going through this as well as PND which comes with its own set of challenges.

You are doing amazingly well as a DM, DSM, DW and DIL. I hope your DH continues to support you and I agree with the PP who said its best to leave him to handle PIL from now on while you concentrate on yourself and your family.

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LozzaCro · 04/09/2013 20:42

Hi Fairy.
I have just read the whole thread, and I must say you have acted with restraint and calm that I could only dream of. My MIL is bi polar and uses very similar tactics to get her way. She calls DP up to 4/5 times a day, insists he visits at least twice a week and gets very tetchy if DS is not with him. I have removed myself from the equation to save my sanity. It works so far!
Please don't doubt yourself, look at how many people are agreeing with you and confirming she is nutty. She is stamping her feet because she isn't getting her own way.
Stay strong!
Lxx

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LongTailedTit · 04/09/2013 21:00

I'm sorry it's turned out like this Fairy. :( Really not what you need with a new baby!

A combination of anti-Ds and CBT helped me deal with mine, though currently I'm getting a rather good endorphin rush from laughing my arse off at 'Funniest Ever You've Been Framed'... Grin

2rebecca makes a very good point - given that you've both shown you're not going to stand for it, what on earth does she think she can gain by haranguing you and being unpleasant? The only logical thing is to back off and see less of her, she's hardly endearing herself to you.
She has been hoisted by her own petard. The prat.

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