To think that Jamie Oliver is a Goady goady mc judgy pants personified!

[LEMisdisappointed]

judgey much?

It reads like a clip from the daily mail - actually, it probably is!

Now there are people, i have a friend who can make an amazing meal out of apparently nothing (she is italian though!) in ten minutes flat - although she has lots of those ingredients that are expensive to buy in the first place but go a long way,i would never know what to do with them!

I am such a boring cook, i have a small repertoire (sp) of meals that i cook - over and over again, the ingredients in my cupboard are basic because i can't afford capers and porcinni mushrooms etc. I rarely fall back on ready meals and feed my family healthily. But its boring really and i can understand why some people use ready meals - time, money - So yeah, making your own pizza will be cheaper than dominos or tesco fineset but it is not going to be cheaper than icelands £1 pizza is it? Not from scratch, not from the start - yes if you divide the amount of pizzas your flour, cheese, tomato sauce and anything else you want to put on it by 20 it might be cheaper but those ingredients have to be bought in the first place.

See, I would welcome cheap and easy ways to make my meals more exciting and thankfully we are not on the breadline this month, but im not going to watch that smug little bastard telling me how i can just knock out some pucker tucker out of a packet of anchovies and dust from the cupboard!

I have always thought him a smug twat - this confirms it!

[idiuntno57]

JO has done way more good than bad in this world and he really does care. A few misplaced comments do not wipe all this out.

[cory]

youmeatsix, the sexism comment was in direct response to the poster who said that the problem is that "British women" do not know how to cook, as if British men are somehow redundant to the discussion. So not about the main topic.

[PrincessFlirtyPants]

It's his manner Nanny0gg improving the nations diet is brilliant, he just comes across as a complete judgy twat when he does it.

[chicaguapa]

YANBU. He should leave people to eat their KFC in front of their big telly and let them wallow in their ignorance of a good diet. I don't know why he bothers tbh. Who cares what other people eat, even if you know what's good for you? He should just concentrate on his own family and fuck the rest of the population.

[mrsjay]

we dont have a market near us well we have a farmers market once a month where it cost you a fiver for a sliver of artisan cheese, it is not practical to wander to the shops to buy a handfull of whatever is it, we are not all jamie with his staff money resources and herb garden

[Arisbottle]

The porcini mushroom thing is bollocks.

I have a pack of dried porcini mushrooms in my larder that I paid no more than £3 for, when I make a risotto with them I use two tablespoons. This is probably cheaper than buying mushrooms, even tasteless button mushrooms.

[LEMisdisappointed]

Ah bollox does he care! He cares about his bank balance and publicity thats wot he cares about!

If you were Mrscan'tcookbuthasabigtv would you want to watch his programs knowing that he thinks you are a scummy chav with no brains?

I have to say i actually find all celebrety chefs smug as fuck - for some reason they think they are akin to rocket scientists and nobel prize winners. Er no, they are cooking - people have been cooking for years and years, its just now fashionable to have some sort of poncey fusion of flavours exploding on your palate!

Just present the food - menu plans would be good, so that you don't have to go and buy expensive spices and herbs that will only get used once and then languish at the back of the cupboard. There is nowt wrong with a nice shepherds pie ya know.

[IKnewHouseworkWasDangerous]

I find his food is very very heavy on the chilli so not exactly for the masses. (Disclaimer. I like chilli but dh doesnt and that much is not ok for dd)

On another note I often think it woukd be a worthwhile initiative to help the really poor by setting them up with a basic food cupboard which includes herbs and spices, stock, rice, pasta, barley etc. All the ingredients that make things taste nice, last for ages and cost a lot to start up. If you can barely afford a tin of tomatoes at the shop you are not going to be able to afford herbs and spices and it is those that make the difference from healthy but unapetising food and decent meals.

[Arisbottle]

Yes I guess you are right second coming, it is the initial outlay. That is what I notice about Jamie Oliver cookbooks, the initial outlay for ingredients is huge and he also uses every bloody pan in the kitchen.

[LEMisdisappointed]

Arisbottle hmmm, i think i may have to buy a packet then - i have honestly never used them and i luffs a good risotto i do

[claudedebussy]

i agree with him.

i think he is saying what needs to be said and no matter how he said it you'd think he was a tosser.

at least he's saying that we have to eat better. because we do. and someone has to be a cunt and say it.

[mrsjay]

when he was the naked chef it was all about the lemons lemon on bloody everything, is it chilli now ?

[LEMisdisappointed]

That is exactly it though, isn't it - the initial outlay, he wont be able to see that though because he wont be able to see past his ego

[Arisbottle]

I have just checked and in Waitrose a 30g pack costs £2.68 or £2.70 for 40g.

BBC website says 1 tablespoon in a risotto for 4 people.

[Arisbottle]

£2.70 for 40g from tesco

[Thaumatrope]

It's not going to work for everyone, but apparently 90% of the UK population is urban. That means access to shops. I know it's not as simple as that but I live in a big city and I cannot imagine which part of it I'd have to live in to not either be passing a veg shop, or be within a mile's walk of a veg shop.

IME independent Asian grocers are the cheapest source of a handful of this and a handful of that, and I'd assume if he says 'a market' he doesn't mean we all have to flock to one with stalls or god forbid a farmers' market.

[mrsjay]

he also uses every bloody pan in the kitchen.

and probably doesn't wash up

[LEMisdisappointed]

So how much is a tablespoon in g then aris? how many "goes" will i get?

[pianodoodle]

I don't know what it is about the phrase but if anyone came round to mine for tea and started asking where I'd sourced ingredients they'd be sent to A&E with a note reading "can you source this fork?"

[LEMisdisappointed]

LAMO at the thought of a farmers market being a source of economy foodstuff! :D

[LEMisdisappointed]

Piano - oh yes! why the fuck can't people just buy stuff nowadays?