Skip to main content
Skip to main navigation
Skip to talk navigation

Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Add post

Watch this thread

Save thread

Start a new thread

Flip thread

Hide thread

My feed

Saved Active Unanswered threads

Getting started FAQ's

Unanswered threads Acronyms Talk guidelines

Hide shortcut buttons

Talk

Flip

MNHQ have commented on this thread

1 2 ··· 5 6 7 ··· 36 37

MNHQ have commented on this thread

AIBU?

"they ate fast food and junk food but had splashed out of a plasma TV."

901 replies

ConfusedPixie · 27/08/2013 08:38

This comment just came up on the radio news, supposedly said by Jamie Oliver about one of the families he was working with in his new TV show.

AIBU to wonder how the fuck what you eat relates to what TV you have?

Surely this just reinforces stereotypes of the people likely to have bad diets through lack of education on the matter? What a bullshit statement.

OP posts:

Report

almapudden · 27/08/2013 10:28

Agree with youthecat about nice pasta sauce. Apart from the bloody pulses. Seriously, why do people always say 'put pulses in it to bulk it out'? Pulses are the devil's food: if I'd been raised on a diet of chicken nuggets and McDonald's, and somebody tried to feed me lentils I'd probably deck them, then run back to Chicken Cottage and hide there gibbering.

Dahlen · 27/08/2013 10:28

A tin of tomatoes with an onion, is basically tomato and onions. It is not a sauce.

Dahlen · 27/08/2013 10:29

You may be able to eat it and enjoy it, but it is not a comparison.

ShadeofViolet · 27/08/2013 10:29

But Ministry of Food isn't that great - most of the recipes are still complex, with lots of talk of organic and ethicly reared meat, sea salt etc. Way above the budget of many people.

Delia has a book called frugal foods, which is quite old but fantastic. If she could update it and rerelease it in a non-patronising way it would be good.

usualsuspect · 27/08/2013 10:29

Maybe he should have given his ministry of food book away for free then.

I mean for the 20 quid it costs you could buy a whole heap of lentils and tinned tomatoes.

Empress77 · 27/08/2013 10:29

Ive never watched his shows so have no idea if hes sanctimonious or not, but he certainly hasnt abandoned Fifteen at least I do know that. i think he means well. If people find him annoying why are they watching him? Hes never annoyed me because Ive never watched him (no tv!)

englishteacher78 · 27/08/2013 10:31

@alma - what is it about lentils that makes you heave? It doesn't have to be lentils - any pulse would do. Baked beans can be used to similar ends - not as healthy but can certainly be a cheap way of getting protein.

Mumsyblouse · 27/08/2013 10:31

Pasta eaten all the time is not nutritious, why does everyone say you can make a cheap pasta sauce as if this is the height of good healthy food? What is nutritious is high quality meat/fish (eggs good substitute) and high quality vegetables and these are extremely expensive in this country. My husband comes from a supposedly (well, they are) very poor country and they laugh at the prices in the supermarkets here- £2 for 2 courgettes or whatever. Eating vegetables and decent non-hormone filled meat or good quality vegetable protein is not cheap.

strokey · 27/08/2013 10:31

I never understand why people use the excuse of not having had home ec lessons at school. I didn't, I wasn't taught to cook either, but there are plenty of free recipes on the net that explain step by step.

Not talking bernaise sauce which is more tricky, but anyone can follow a recipe for a flipping spag bol or fish pie! Even if they've never picked up a kitchen knife before

Moln · 27/08/2013 10:32

Ah Jubbly Oliver such good intentions but what a patronising way.

Want I'd there to be for us all to watch on our (plasma) TVs is a programme where Jamie and his family (or possibly Bono and Jamie on their island) live for a least a month, two preferably, on a low income.

They'd recieve their budget and out of it he has to pay rent/bills, travel expense and have and entertain his family, keep everyone happy. He'd also have to ensure that his family eat well as his keeps telling everyone to, fresh food only and there be no waste.

When he does that, then I'm prepared to acknowledge that his information is acceptable.

ShadeofViolet · 27/08/2013 10:33

I am not saying its an excuse, what I am saying though is that its a chance to educate. No-one is going to be able to live on cherry scones!

Empress77 · 27/08/2013 10:33

Im standing by my napoli sauce - even if I have no onion its still delicious! I also agree about the pulses - they have their place in chili but not pasta sauce!

englishteacher78 · 27/08/2013 10:33

Shade of violet - maybe I'm falling fall of what I mentioned earlier but I find the Ministry of Food recipes really simple.
As for free recipes the BBC Good Food website is full of them.

Thymeout · 27/08/2013 10:34

There's nothing fake about his accent. He grew up in a pub in Essex and his parents speak just like he does.

And he was in the remedial stream at school - dyslexia? Which is why he started the 15 scheme.

So he's made money. Good luck to him.

MrsHelsBels74 · 27/08/2013 10:34

It's surely about convenience too? I have 2 small boys & PND and there are days when I'm just too tired/low to cook from scratch. DH doesn't cook so on those days we eat 'junk'. I know it's not ideal.

Also decent fruit & veg isn't cheap.

BrokenSunglasses · 27/08/2013 10:34

He probably doesn't truly understand the problems that some people face, how can he properly empathise with people in poverty when he is worth millions?

But at least he cares, which is a lot more than the majority of millionaires do.

Being wealthy can have it's problems as well, but we don't expect people who are poor to be able to understand or care about that.

I think it's really unfair that he's receiving this much criticism. He's been getting it for years and he could easily have decided not to bother so he could concentrate on increasing his millions in another way that wouldn't leave him open to such hostility.

englishteacher78 · 27/08/2013 10:35

Both true. He did have very supportive parents and it is a gastro-pub.

YouTheCat · 27/08/2013 10:35

Just to point out, 15 is still going because it makes him money.

farrowandbawl · 27/08/2013 10:36

The pasta sauce is used as an example because it can the base to so many other things.

farrowandbawl · 27/08/2013 10:36

*be the base to so many other things.

almapudden · 27/08/2013 10:38

It's not just lentils, englishteacher, it's all pulses including baked beans. I can't stand the texture: it givesme a ggenuine feeling of revulsion.

Empress77 · 27/08/2013 10:38

I agree broken sunglasses. Surely if hes rich hes better if hes trying than if hes just rolling around in the money and not caring atall? Why chastise a rich man just because hes trying to help? - and even if some of his aims are pants Fifteen definitely isnt.
Makes me want to watch him and see what the fuss is about!

Don’t want to miss threads like this?

Weekly

Sign up to our weekly round up and get all the best threads sent straight to your inbox!

Email address

Log in to update your newsletter preferences.

You've subscribed!

BrokenSunglasses · 27/08/2013 10:38

15 does make him money, but it could probably make him more money if he didn't invest so much in training young people and he just relied on people who had been trained and qualified elsewhere.

FasterStronger · 27/08/2013 10:38

Just to point out, 15 is still going because it makes him money.

which is just crap.

to point out, 15 is still going because it makes him money.

'All profits from Jamie Oliver's Fifteen are redirected back into the Apprentice Programme'

your source?

whats the point in posting such crap?

ShadeofViolet · 27/08/2013 10:39

He grew up 2 minutes down the road from me. No-one I know speaks like that. We are talking North Essex, close to the Cambridgeshire border, not deepest Romford.

Flip

1 2 ··· 5 6 7 ··· 36 37

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.