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To think this individual should be sterilised. Upsetting.

9 replies

lunar1 · 22/08/2013 14:30

Sorry if this is posted already, and sorry for the DM link,

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2399852/Sadistic-father-beat-newborn-daughter-held-pillow-face-forced-head-underwater-wanted-cause-pain.html

He will be free before he turns 30, what good can ever come from this thing fathering more children. Nothing can ever make up for what he has done to his baby daughter. When i think of the years it took me to have my family and for the struggle that others have it makes me so sad that he will be able to start his life again in a few years.

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Sanctimummy · 22/08/2013 14:34

I think personally it is unforgivable.

The only thing in his favour is that he wasn't caught out. He confessed all and went to the police himself.

He needs serious MH help, and shouldn't be around children ever again.

littlewhitebag · 22/08/2013 14:34

I didn't read the link but what i can say is that anyone who has been convicted of harm to a child or killing a child will be unlikely to be allowed to be involved with any other child on release from prison. He will be very closely managed and supervised on release.

zatyaballerina · 22/08/2013 14:47

Horrible, although he admitted what he did so I think it was more that he has severe mental problems and perhaps he admitted what he did to his wife because the sane bit of him didn't want to harm her? He willingly went to the police and confessed that he was overcome with desire to harm his child and told them everything he had done. He was looking for help, an evil person wouldn't have done that.

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 22/08/2013 15:36

YABU to think anyone should be sterilised involuntarily.

Goldenhandshake · 22/08/2013 16:07

littlewhitebag unfortunately that is not always the case though, social services/police in some areas can be shockingly lax.

I personally have a friend who was beaten to within an inch of her life by her ex partner, in front of her two children, he also attacked one of the children (aged 2), the case went to court, he was convicted on both attacks, and is no longer alllowed contact with his children, the judge ruled he should never have closecontact with other children either.

6 years later he is out of prison, married to and living with a woman with her own two young children and despite his ex reporting this to social services and her victim liaison team, nothing has been done to protect this woman and her kids from him.

AntoinetteCosway · 22/08/2013 16:27

It sounds like he has mental health issues and like he didn't rationally want to hurt her. He can't be sadistic if he immediately confessed to his wife and then went to the police?

WithConfidence · 22/08/2013 16:34

He is mentally ill and unfortunately for everyone his compulsions were to hurt a baby. This is clearly awful for everyone involved but good on him for confessing and going to the police.

Sterilising isn't going to stop him from hurting another child but treatment/drugs might. Hopefully he will get that help now.

SeaSickSal · 22/08/2013 16:38

He won't ever be allowed to live with a child or spend unsupervised time with them again. Probably not supervised either.

AntoinetteCosway · 22/08/2013 16:44

I know someone who had severe PND and PTSD and had fantasies about hurting the baby (but didn't). She got treatment and is totally well and a wonderful mother. If this man is in a similar situation it would be dreadful for him to lose access to his children, but it must be nigh on impossible for the courts to judge whether that's the case or whether he's a permanent danger. It's terribly sad all round Sad

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