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To think Marianne shouldn't have married Colonel Brandon?

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squoosh · 21/08/2013 23:45

Okay Willoughby was a cad and a bounder and took himself out of the running, but I do think that Brandon swooped in to take advantage of her rain induced fever which had left her a bit dazed and compliant.

It's a bit creepy that he falls in love with her because she reminds him of his long lost, 'fallen', dead love. Plus he's a bit intense, the laughs wouldn't be forthcoming and I'll warrant he expected her to do all kinds of dark shit in the bedroom.

Ideally she'd have had another couple of seasons in London and met lots of nice suitors or maybe even nipped across to Pride and Prejudice and married that nice Colonel Fitzwilliam.

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biryani · 22/08/2013 14:33

I loved Ciaran Hinds as Wentworth. And if anyone remembers, David Rintoul as Darcy and Elizabeth Garvie as Lizzie in Pand P. I find some of those recent adaptations a bit Hollywoodish, no doubt to appeal to the American market.

racingheart · 22/08/2013 14:47

Thursdaylast How can you hate the TV adaptation of Persuasion? It is so passionate, so tender, Amanda root is utterly bewitching as the faded but lovely Anne and Ciaran Hinds as Wentworth is heart stopping. Are we talking about the same production?

Shrugged thanks for that tip. Did MP for A level and hated it, Fanny is such a killjoy. I love Joan Aitken's writing. Bet she does a brilliant job of it.

squoosh · 22/08/2013 14:50

racingheart The TV version stars Rupert Penry Jones as Wentworth and Sally Hawkins (who I love) as Anne.

The one you're describing is the film version.

To be honest I like them both.

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sheridand · 22/08/2013 15:07

Ooh, will look up that Joan Aiken book! Thanks!

PMSL at Emma as a Wendy! That's just so right!

I was thinking today that I must reread them all now. I did the Bronte canon over the Summer and I think that as i've aged the Bronte men look less and less attractive and some of the more boring Austen men look better and better. It's probably that I simply don't have the energy to cope with a Heathcliff or Rochester anymore.....

Although both of them do meet together, to my mind, in the ghastly "St John episode". That character could fit equally well in either canon, and was probably related by blood to Mr Collins.

Grumpla · 22/08/2013 15:29

Thanks for the tip Shrugged Smile

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ThursdayLast · 22/08/2013 15:59

Racingheart, I don't think we are talking about the same one, thanks squoosh!

The end of the one I'm talking about has Anne, who I believe is deliberately NOT overtly passionate, running down the streets of Bath to find Wentworth. This wasn't in the book, and isn't even a fitting bit of artistic licence IMO. There were other annoyances that I can't recall now.

Anne is my fave, Persuasion is my fave, Wentworth is my fave. EnvyEnvyEnvyEnvyEnvy

squoosh · 22/08/2013 16:00

Wentworth would be amazing in bed! Just amazing.

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EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 22/08/2013 16:03

WickedBitch Grin
I married a willoughby too. Sadly he is just too rakish and irresponsible to remain married to but the thought of a colonel Brandon makes my fanny shrivel so I'd rather stay single and have a couple of willoughbies on standby for fun and games.

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 22/08/2013 16:03

so much! Not to much.

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ppeatfruit · 22/08/2013 16:08

IMO Mr. Knightley would be an extremely considerate lover (actually thinking about him he's too good to be true).We don't know if he's ever had a GF or not do we?

hermioneweasley · 22/08/2013 16:11

I woukd happily do "dark shit" in the bedroom with Alan Rickman.

squoosh · 22/08/2013 16:12

I'm sure Mr Knightley had assignations with famous actresses of the day and other similarly unsuitable ladies.

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ppeatfruit · 22/08/2013 16:12

Gwyn Paltrow was not the correct actress for Emma neither was Romola Garai,who IMO makes a log seem animated, but at least she has the correct english nuances to her speech.

ppeatfruit · 22/08/2013 16:15

squoosh I don't suppose JA would 've mentioned that type of thing when you think how the secret engagement of frank Churchill is viewed!!!

ThursdayLast · 22/08/2013 16:19

Wentworth def a beast.
All that practising whilst away in the navy.

I'm afraid Rickman will alway be Snape to me, and no matter how much his last chapter broke my heart, I just couldn't!

In fact apart from Darcy and Wentworth, they're all not QUITE right are they? I alway thought Knightly old, Willoughby too much of a cad for me, Mansfield Park has no good men.

I quite liked Donald Sutherland's Mr Bennett NOT LIKE THAT!

squoosh · 22/08/2013 16:23

Oh I know, if a secret engagement can create such a rumpus I don't know how the people of Hampstead would have coped finding out that Mr Knightley was attending Regency swingers parties.

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AphraBehn · 22/08/2013 16:30

I've always liked Henry Tilney. There was a period when I thought he might be gay but now I get him.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss · 22/08/2013 16:39

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TheOneAndOnlyFell · 22/08/2013 16:43

springy how dare you blaspheme about that scene! That is number number 1, all-time favourite movie scene ever and I won't hear a word against it.

Actually my top three favourite movie scenes all contain Emma Thompson in various states of emotional turmoil. Grin

I agree that Marianne sold herself short, and Colonel Brandon couldn't believe his luck. It would never have worked. She was too flighty and would have lead the poor old duffer a merry dance. He would have been sitting in his bath chair, looking all forlorn and impotent, gazing out across the lawn from a tall Georgian window bay, while she flirted around the clipped yews with some young whippersnapper up from London.

Fillyjonk75 · 22/08/2013 16:44

Fair enough, I don't know anything of the book or other versions, only the Alan Rickman one. He makes everyone seem desirable, even Snape.

The only Jane Austen I have actually read is P&P, and I've only seen the 1995 BBC TV version of that, and I'm not interested in seeing any other version!

Anyway North and South with Richard Armitage is twice as good as any Jane Austen adaptation IMO.

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 22/08/2013 16:45

I thought romola garai was a lovely Emma!

ThursdayLast · 22/08/2013 16:50

Fillyjonk
Anything with Richard Armitage in gets the thumbs up from me.
Including that dreadful Robin Hood