To think I have alot more to worry about than a sodding kleanezee booklet.

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I have a lot to do in the day, I wake up at 5am for work start at 7am till 3pm. Then it the usual housework dinner spending time with DC and DH.

I tend to take them out everyday, so normally home for 6:30ish then it bedtime routine ect.

Just had a knock on the door waking DD up all for a sodding kleanezee booklet ( she said this is the 4th time she has called)

Aibu to think you don't knock people door this time of night.

Hope DD goes back to sleep soon.

I bin/recycle unsolicited crap which is put through my letterbox.

Whilst I do feel very sorry for any poor sod traipsing around in the gloaming attempting to distribute & collect the damn catalogues, I don't think I'm doing them much of a favour by returning them.

It's a pyramid-selling con-job at which no-one ever makes any money. The only reason the company stays afloat is by recruiting more mugs to 'invest' in catalogues.

If we all just binned them, the unfortunate buggers would just lose their start up costs immediately, realise they'd been had, & word would get round. It wouldn't take weeks of schlepping round houses, being told to sod off 90% of the time, but selling the occasional overpriced dishtowel to the occasional vulnerable person, & deluding themselves that they're 'building up a business'.

I don't get that giving them the catalogue back, with no order & no intention of ever placing one, is a nicer thing to do. They've made two pointless trips to my doorstep already; if I haven't binned the catalogue thereby getting myself struck off their list (as Wallison says they'll be ignoring any signs requesting no catalogues) then they'll leave another one, & have to come back for that...

I've done both Kleeneze and Avon. I always obeyed the 'No Junk Mail/Catalogues/marketing' signs on doors on the grounds that someone who is sufficiently annoyed by unsolicited mail to put a sign up is someone who is never going to buy from me/us. I have never knocked on anyone's door to ask for a catalogue back and certainly wouldn't do so after about 8pm. Unfortunately arseholes are arseholes everywhere.

It does just seem like a massive pyramid scheme.

Well dd finally got to sleep at 12:30.

It's going to be a long day

A friend of MIL conned DH and I into trying this when we were students. It sucked and we hardly made any money.

I do always put the catalogues outside though in empathy! All the ones delivered here come in Ziploc bags.

OP that was a stupid time to calm at your house though!

Call not calm!

We have a shelf on our porch that's not visible from the road. I used to leave them there. They were safe and dry. And the silly woman still knocked every bloody time! Apparently it was to check if I was certain I didn't want to buy anything. I told her I had a friend at work who also did kleeneze and avon and if I wanted anything I'd order through her. She got a bit shirty about it! So we came to the understanding that if she put another catalogue through my door, I would put it straight in the recycling bin instead of keeping it safe for her. I no longer get the catalogues.

Actually, as far as I know, most of these companies - and market research companies as well (I have done that, too) - have a 'code of conduct' for the people doing them, which includes not ringing doorbells after 8.30pm and never being rude to the public. Unfortunately, because these jobs are so poorly paid and the companies will generally take on just about anyone, a lot of the people doing them are either not very bright or utterly desperate, so they soon start bending or ignoring the rules.

The problem in our area is that no one does the kleeneze/Avon/betterware rounds for very long. So we have asked them not to leave catalogues and they remember but then a couple of months later they start up again because someone new has the round.

We live in a Neighbourhood Watch "no cold calling, no unsolicited mail" area.

The sign states very clearly that any unsolicited mail will be recycled. I can only think of one occasion when it has been ignored and I can't now remember which catalogue it was.

But I left it out, left it out again. Finally brought it back in after a fortnight completely drenched so binned it. Another week later I got a volley of abuse for not giving it back. Three weeks after the "I will collect on" date.