aibu to be sick of seeing bfing vs ffeeding debates?

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

That's it really. I've just turned the tv on and AGAIN...there it is! It just infuriates me.

I still bfeed dd (22 months) I already live with friends and family making me feel uncomfetable, ignoreing little funny jokes/comments about it. I really do not need to turn the television on and hear some woman spouting how its disgusting etc on national television.

It annoys me moreso (sp?) That it is never a fair debate. It is always two extremest type people who just want to point out how wrong, disgusting etc the other party is.

Surely most people have access to information and support out there to make an informed choice about what's best for them. So what is the point of all this then? It seems its just another way for us to belittle eachotherparenting choices


Please excuse grammer/spelling

[Katnisscupcake]

I think ALL babies should be fed in private little cubicles, whether FF or BF and we shouldn't be allowed to talk about it, then no-one will know how anyone feeds their babies and there will be no more reason to debate, everyone will just do what they want!! No judging and no arguing!!

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

Oh gawd honestly this isn't supposed to be a "breast feeding/formula feefing is best because...." type of thread.

That's what I saying, we know the pros and cons for both. Why is it on tv again being bashed out??

Maybe starting a thread on the subject is a tad counter productive...

[gamerchick]

But it isn't really a ff/be debate. It's about feeding a kid in a swimming pool. I mean who does that?

[Minifingers]

The department of health do an Infant Feeding Survey every 5 years. They question about 8000 women about feeding. 30% of ff mums under 20 couldn't name one benefit of breastfeeding. And decision to breastfeed is more influenced by age and education than anything else. I mean HUGELY so. There is still work to be done on the education front. A lot of work. Most people still have the same understanding of the health issues with bf as they did of smoking in the 1940's: if I can't SEE how this lifestyle choice makes a difference to health then there can't BE a difference.

[Trapper]

I love a good debate, but I am not sure what we are debating here. Could the OP please advise:
A) bf vs ff
B) bf later than perceived social norms
C) bf in swimming pools - good or bad?

[DropYourSword]

Mini fingers I don't see the issue being about bodily fluids in the water. It's this particular woman's expectation of entitlement that sets back the whole BF push for normality. She feels entitled to be able to feed her baby in the middle of a swimming pool and is making a huge guys about it. This doesn't help promote breast feeding rights. Women should be able to BF without discrimination just as women who are FF should be. However, women don't FF in a swimming pool, so why should it be expected they can BF. In any situation where it would be accepted for a baby to FF then a baby should also be able to BF without issue. But there's no one here arguing that women should be able to bottle feed in pools, right.
Yes, lactating women might leak milk, no that doesn't bother me. No, I can't think of a single particularly good argument as to why there would BE an issue with her feeding in a pool. But then I can also not think of s single argument why I couldn't also easy certain foods in a pool. Apples don't crumble or make a mess, so should I be able to eat them during my swim.
Yes, newborns feed regularly and no, mums shouldn't be locked up at home. But she wasn't asked to leave the complex, she was asked to leave the water as there is a no eating and drinking rule. I think she was treated entirely reasonably.

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

All the above trapper.
If it were just a normal reasoned debate about either of these things it Would be ok.

Its the way its done I think. Its useing inflametry language like, disgusting, gross, implying that one mother doesn't care as much about her child as the other one ect that riles me. If that mmakes sense?

It seems to be woman slateing eachother that take over the supposed issue iyswim

[wickerbasketcase]

Ok mini fingers I have a medical degree and I'm 37. I've chosen to FF my twins. Go figure that one out with your generalisations!

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

That is not in particular about the this morning debate. Just generaliseing what these debates normaly consist of

[Mutley77]

minifingers - why do you care how anyone's baby was/is fed except your own? Sorry if I misunderstood your post.

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

Just to add, I was 22 when I had dd, have very limited intelligence (in terms of being smart/educated) and it was still considered the "Normal" option for me to bf

So I tend to take surveys/ studies with a pinch of salt really

[ImNotABarbieGirl]

Miawthecat

[FrigginRexManningDay]

Or Samantha Prick Miaow bet she'll be around for a bit to give Katie Kockpins a break.

[myrubberduck]

StarBallBunny Tue 20-Aug-13 11:28:42


"It will continue until the NHS trains it's midwives, HVs and GPs into properly supporting BFing, right up to the WHO guideline of two years.

Every Drs surgery, nursery, surestart centre and library should have posters advising where you can get support and those posters should have pictures clearly showing babies and toddlers being fed.

(Just as follow on milk ads use crawling babies angry to brain wash people the opposite way)

Natural term BFing just needs to be as accepted as using a car seat"



Absolutely- BF your toddler is JUST as important as using a car seat. Scratch that- its MORE important than using a car seat....
In fact I bet that if you bf your toddler he/she will not even need a car seat as the magic of breastmilk will protect them in the event of a crash

[FrigginRexManningDay]

Now that's something worth getting worked up about Miaow. We should pitch that idea. Ego wars.

[sparklingstars]

Me too. I have very rigid views on which method of feeding I think is the right one, therefore that is what I did. But at the end of the day, some people b/f and some people f/f and they can make their own mind up.
No need for debate at all IMO.

[Justforlaughs]

trapper

1. Everyone should be able to make their own decision about whether to bf/ ff without being subjected to abuse. The facts are available for everyone to understand and make their own informed choice.
   
   
2. Breastfeeding in public? Yes, obviously it should be acceptable, but as far as I can see the bottom line should be - would I ff a baby there? If the answer is yes then go for it, if the answer is no - then don't! Simple. Not about modesty/ disgusting or whatever - just purely sensible! I wouldn't dream of going into a public toilet to ff, but then I wouldn't ff at an interview/ in a swimming pool/ during a tennis match/ while driving etc, etc.
   
   
3. Bf until later than average age? Personally I don't care what you/ anyone else does. Same as 1) really, make your own choices on your own experience/ life.

[usualsuspect]

Well done,OP.

You have started them all off again.

My grown up kids don't give a shit how I fed them.

In fact I doubt they even know,because I don't constantly bang on about it.

[SaucyJack]

Oh YANBU. When I look back at all the hours I wasted online slagging off other women's feeding choices when I could've been doing something genuinely life enriching (like reading The Day Of The Jackal) I could cry.

Fortunately mine are older now, and I couldn't care less.

[BinarySolo]

'And the totally "we're fucked and need something controversial to witter about for five minutes" fall-back plan... wheel out Katie Hopkins.'

Oh I rather like the idea of KH having to be wheeled out. Implies she's kept in a storage cupboard somewhere...

[boydonewrongagain]

Yanbu I'm absolutely sick of hearing one versus the other.

Feed your baby however you want to feed your baby and allow others to do the same with theirs.

Simple as!

[flowersinavase]

YABU.

The health benefits of BF deserve to be shouted from the rooftops. The amount of medical problems, the associated heartache and, by implication, NHS funding, which could be saved if more people BF are so huge that we should be talking about it every day!

[kali110]

Drop- agree with your whole post. I turned tv off i think they were both bu. personally i think the woman did it to make a point. I didnt agree with the other one saying it was disgusting though. Tv shows always picks the two extremes.