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Original poster

Eddie Shah and men like him need locking up.

21 replies

JakeBullet · 11/08/2013 08:34

Eddie Shah feels underage girls who consent to sex can be to blame for that sex taking place. To be clear we are talking about younger teenagers here but whatever happened to an adult taking responsibility for his own sections and saying "no, you are underage" and showi some fuck g restraint. Or am I being unreasonable here.

I am not talking about an adult who thinks a 15 year old is 17 .....but an adult who freely and willingly engages in a relationship with an underage girl because he can.

Here is the news link.

He appears totally unaware of an adult being an adult and a child being a child.

Given that opinion I feel he is a danger to children everywhere....as are men just like him. They need locking up and some serious rehab work taking place.

Disgusting man.

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Emilythornesbff · 11/08/2013 08:43

Yanbu

ReallyTired · 11/08/2013 08:44

Your link doesn't work. Here is a link that does work.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23653172

Eddie Shah has the right to free speech and to state obnoxious opinons. I disagree with you that he needs locking up for just having obnoxious opinons. Sad to say, plenty of people share his opinons. Certainly people who believe that underage girls were to blame is what allowed the grooming of children by asians/muslims in Oxford/ Rochdale to go on for so long.

Whether we like it or not, he has been cleared of raping a school girl by a proper court. Unless there is clear proof that he has has committed a crime then he does not need to be punished.

I agree with the OP that Eddie Shah is a disgusting man, but there is no clear evidence that he is a danger to children other than his obnoxious opinons. People get locked up for having unacceptable opinons in dicatorships where there is no freedom of free speech.

ApocalypseThen · 11/08/2013 09:01

He can say what he likes, but his opinions led him to break the law. I'd recommend nobody follow his advice on any subject.

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JakeBullet · 11/08/2013 09:03

True, he has the right of free speech and I am glad because it tells me exactly what kind of man he is.

He was found not guilty in a out of law but it doesn't take Einstein to work out that with morals like that he might just have had the better legal team.

Obnoxious bloody man.

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WitchOfEndor · 11/08/2013 09:05

He's an arsehole and unfortunately he's not alone.

YoniMatopoeia · 11/08/2013 09:08

Ugh. What horrible comments. Especially

" If we're talking about girls who just go out and have a good time, then they are to blame.

"If we talk about people who go out and actually get 'raped' raped, then I feel no -and everything should be done against that."

Nasty victim blaming stuff.

But he can't be locked up for comments.

pippitysqueakity · 11/08/2013 09:24

I heard him on the radio last night and could not believe what I was hearing.
They keep repeating it on R5 and each time it drives me mad.
He uses such a reasonable voice too.

vintagecakeisstillnice · 11/08/2013 11:15

Well yes because a 12/13/14 year old girl has so much more foresight, intelligence and sense of responsibility that a grown man, don't ya know Hmm.

limitedperiodonly · 11/08/2013 11:26

I can't decide whether the three of them are extraordinarily lucky to have been acquitted or extraordinarily unlucky to have been charged in the first place.

I mean, it's not at all suspicious that three adults would meet up with a 12 year old girl in a hotel. Happens all the time. I expect they just had tea and scones in the three years that it went on.

What is the world coming to when three people, one of whom is a prostitute and is having sex with both the others, can do something so completely normal and have dirty-minded people and think it's got something to do with sex?

GangstersLoveToDance · 11/08/2013 11:29

I have to say - I just read the article and I can't see anywhere where it says that he is specifically referring to adults who knowingly engage in relationships with underage girls Hmm
The part where he says something about girls going out and 'looking like they're 17/18/19' (paraphrasing) suggests to me he means more in the context of when a man is not aware a girl is underage.

ReginaPhilangie · 11/08/2013 11:33

He is the ultimate wanker! Stupid stupid bastard.

IsisOhIsis · 11/08/2013 11:39

Any adult having sex with a 12-15 year old girl, whether she resisted or not, knows that is wrong. Even if she stripped naked in front of him it is for the adult to behave like an adult and take responsibility for saying no. He is a vile, disgusting human being and I agree that he probably did just have the better legal team.

opilo · 11/08/2013 12:34

YABU I disagree with him totally but you can't "lock up" people who you disagree with.

SofiaVagueara · 11/08/2013 12:44

I think he is a repugnant human being with repugnant views. But you can't lock people up simply for holding unpleasant views.

If he has acted in the way he describes and someone makes a complaint and it can be proven of course he should be locked up.

But thought crime is thankfully not illegal. I find it quite disturbing some people think it should be.

NicholasTeakozy · 11/08/2013 13:13

If he had sex with an underage girl then yes he should be in jail. For holding obnoxious views, then no, he should not. What he's said is repugnant, and he's very rightly getting called on it.

mcmooncup · 11/08/2013 13:19

Rape apologist
Misogynist
Victim Blamer
Entitled male

It's like fuckwit bingo with this dude

Mia4 · 11/08/2013 14:35

YANBU that his opinions are crap but YABU to suggest he should be locked up when he's been found not guilty.

He has a right to free speech, just as those of us who think he's a twat have the right to say he's that plus all that mcmooncup has said and challenge his ignorance.

limitedperiodonly · 11/08/2013 16:11

I'm finding it all a bit confusing for my tiny mind.

As far as I can see, Eddy Shah's defence was that he didn't have sex with the girl at all, let alone rape her, regardless of what age she was.

The jury accepted that. It was a second trial, which makes me think the CPS were either vindictive or thought they were on to something.

Juries sometimes do the most extraordinary things. It's the glory and tragedy of the jury system.

In the light of that, I'm a bit baffled as to his comments about girls throwing themselves at celebrities or accusing random men in the street of rape.

Whatever reason would there be to say such things seeing as in his case, it didn't happen, right?

Rather than chucking the confused but totally innocent of rape, Eddy Shah in prison for his comments, I think Radio 5 Live should have a little word with themselves about giving people credibility by allowing them to spout their dodgy views unchallenged; and not for the first time.

NayFindus · 12/08/2013 21:32

YANBU.

3 year olds like to explore and will occasionally do this by ramming things in electrical sockets so we protect them from their own behaviour, because they know no better.

Children going through puberty want to explore their sexuality and will occasionally do this by allowing vile old men to use them so we protect them from their own behaviour, because they know no better.

thebody · 12/08/2013 21:40

NayFindus, absolutely spot on post. totally agree and well put.

ComposHat · 12/08/2013 23:51

What he said was hateful & idiotic.

Mind you, I am glad I don't live in a country where people can be locked up for saying stupid things.

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