to think Julian Assange is a complete tool?

[WestieMamma]

His latest offering is bitching online about how he is being abused by being detained for 3 years without being charged.

"I have not been charged. It's an extraordinary situation that someone could be detained for three years without charge. That's part of the abuses in this case,"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10229910/Julian-Assange-claims-Australian-men-dont-kiss-and-tell.html

No Westie, not irrelevant if he genuinely does have Aspergers.

Absolutely 100% irrelevant. Aspergers has nothing to do with whether he is a rapist or not. Aspergers has nothing to do with him being a fugitive from the law. Suggesting it is, is offensive to people with Aspergers.

He's not detained. He's on the run.

On the contrary, Sweden have form for sending wanted people off to the US without due process.

No it doesn't. That is a myth.

Sweden can't be such a risky country for Julian Assange, Lazyjaney. He applied for residency, based on the protections it offers to whistleblowers. He thought it was a safe place for him to live.

Bloody Hell.

I think tis is the first time I've agreed with the 'Mumsnet Massive'

I thought he was a complete and utter tool even before he ran crying and whinging to the Ecuadorian embassy.

He (perhaps inadvertently) has placed himself at risk of spending the rest of his life in a US prison. Even if he didn't fully foresee that risk, it's absurd to call someone willing to piss of the US government a coward, as some here have done.

I don't know what the sentence would be if he were convicted of the sex crimes, but I doubt avoiding it would be a good enough reason to go down the asylum route. I think he has more serious fears.

LondonMan have you considered that he is aware what actually being convicted of rape would do to his public image? Its not just the actual jail sentence, its also a loss if public support, including financial and political to keep him away from the USA.

I do wonder how the Ecuadorians are enjoying having him as a permanent house guest? I have an image of him being quite high maintenance and the Ecuadorians hissing to each other about how fed up they are.
Weirdly he is running for a Senate seat in the upcoming Australian election.

I think he was honeytrapped but he's also not helping the situation by nt explaining his side on the pretext of being gentlemanly.

I think tis is the first time I've agreed with the 'Mumsnet Massive

On the evidence of this thread the Mumsnet Massive would be the ones carping about Oscar Schindler's infidelity and drinking.

Extraordinary combination of naïveté, small and closed mindedness here.

I pity anyone gullible enough to think that should Assange emerge from the Ecuadorian embassy there will be any attempt to levy genuine justice for the highly dubious charges levied against him. He would be banged up in a US supermax prison before his feet touched the ground.

I pity anyone gullible enough to believe in conspiracy theories. He has followed the UK judicial process irt the extradition proceedings to Sweden, how is that not justice? If / once extradited to Sweden he would be subject to their judicial processes, the representation, fair trial and appeals process.

It is far easier to be extradited to the US from the UK than from Sweden - see various businessmen who have been extradited to the US including the Natwest 3 over financial irregularities over Enron. I believe, not an expert in extradition though, that the level of proof required is lower in the UK and in Sweden.

Oh and YANBU, although I don't think you go far enough.

*I think tis is the first time I've agreed with the 'Mumsnet Massive

On the evidence of this thread the Mumsnet Massive would be the ones carping about Oscar Schindler's infidelity and drinking.

Extraordinary combination of naïveté, small and closed mindedness here.*

Why? Because people disagree with you?

The US can't just abduct someone from British soil. If Assange did emerge from the Ecuadorian Embassy the US would have to apply for an extradition order.

On the same lines, anyone planning on watching The Fifth Estate when it comes out later this year? They're already talking about it as an Oscar contender.

Sorry Janey, I very often agree with you, but I have read an awful lot about this issue from before he went into hiding and much more since, including a lot of the officially filed legal documents from both sides, and on this one I can't, I really, really can't. It's not about naivete or small and closed mindedness. Even putting aside assorted "what ifs", there are cases to be answered and behaviour to be explained REGARDLESS of any issues surrounding what the US want him for.

What amazes me is that there are people who seem to think that just because he MAY have done some useful service with Wikileaks, he is now above the law and should not answer charges like anyone else. One does not supersede the other. If any other man wanted for questioning or to be charged with a sexual crime jumped into an embassy to evade detention, I don't believe you'd be defending his actions. I really don't think you would.

"detained for three years".

Far from keeping him in, I think he would be surprised just how keen the police are for him to come out of his embassy.

TiggyD - love that.

He has been very good at spinning his position - detained vs voluntarily seeking asylum in an embassy.

YANBU a total arse is what he is and an arrogant one at that

If any other man wanted for questioning or to be charged with a sexual crime jumped into an embassy to evade detention, I don't believe you'd be defending his actions. I really don't think you would

Probably not - but then again, if that other man ran an organisation that seriously embarrassed the US by dumping it's secrets on the Web, and was consequently accused of a rape via a process with more red flags in it than an Olympic slalom course, I would tend to be very suspicious of the whole affaire.

His error was going to the UK, not Russia :)

Westie - re aspergers - I am not suggesting that re rape for goodness sake!! Just saying that one aspect of Aspergers is that people can exhibit behaviour that can appear strange to other people who dont have Aspergers.. ie obession with technogy and justice, social awkwardness etc.

Sorry - obsession and don't! Sent from mobile with tiny keypad!!

Lazyjaney
I'm the world's biggest cynic when it comes to government practices especially where the US is concerned but I just have to laugh at your comments.

Westie - re aspergers - I am not suggesting that re rape for goodness sake!! Just saying that one aspect of Aspergers is that people can exhibit behaviour that can appear strange to other people who dont have Aspergers.. ie obession with technogy and justice, social awkwardness etc.

And I'm just asking, what relevance does that have to being accused of rape, fleeing the country to avoid answering those accusations, fighting extradition and then holing up in the Equadorian embassy when you realise the game is up?

He's a complete tool, and seems not to care that Bradley Manning has been hung out to dry.

And let's not start on his attitudes towards women in general, and his likely behaviour towards specific women. But I do wond why he's too afraid to face the charges against him.