To think that describing someone as 'hipster'...

[ElleMcFearsome]

... Is not remotely as derogatory as describing them as 'chavvy'?

Had DHs long term friend and his wife over recently. A mutual friend asked how they were and I said words to the effect of 'oh X (male half of the couple) is utter bliss as ever. I adore him, he's so hipster!' She recoiled in horror and told me that I couldn't use 'hipster' to describe someone as it was as bad as saying someone is 'chavvy' (though, obviously with completely different meanings). FWIW it would never cross my mind to describe someone as 'chavvy' as for me it has unpleasant connotations.

X is in his 40s, I'm late 30s. X works in tech, is v stylish, wears clothing brands that will be fashionable in a years time, is a real muso, can talk for whole minutes about which coffee he prefers, is off beat and cool and adorable and good fun... which equates to hipster in my mind.

MN - am I using the word wrongly? Has 'hipster' acquired a derogatory meaning? Help!

[ViviPru]

I heart "salty language"

[catinabox]

ArtexMonkey

ha ha. quality.

[mignonette]

I used to want to change careers and become one of those 'cool hunters' employed by social forecasting companies/major brands. That was until I realised I would probably have to grow a beard and be called all kinds of horrible names....

[LEMisdisappointed]

I must be getting old

[ElleMcFearsome]

Meanwhile I'm making a list of all the words/expressions I use that I shouldn't be using! It's a long list. Need .

[catinabox]

I say gosh a lot Ellen so don't worry about it..

[EstelleGetty]

I heart "salty language" too ViviPru. It's great!

My DH described my sense of humour as "saltier" than his in his speech at our wedding. Probably because I laugh about bums and stuff.

[EstelleGetty]

And I think you have a lovely turn of phrase, Elle. I've just finished reading a brilliant John Waters book and I wish more people would say things like "utter bliss." Sign of an inspired mind, if you ask me!

[mrsjay]

well i suppose it depends on your definition of cool is do grown up really worry about being cool or not

[Feminine]

elle where did you hear this "utter bliss" business?

It is the weirdest thing to say about a person

It sounds like something a woman might say after making love on a day time movie!

I believe you when you say you don't fancy him ...but c'mon, are you sure

Oh, and the hipster bit is cool with me.

[gaggiagirl]

elle I use the word to describe a fashion my brother and his DP are hipster and describe themselves as such. I feel old now.

[limitedperiodonly]

I know someone who turned up to an important sales meeting on a scooter. Not a Vespa, one of those children's things.

He didn't get the contract.

He's a hipster.

[ElleMcFearsome]

Feminine - I'm not sure. I think I've always said things like that

I'll give MN credit for making me aware of flaws that I hadn't managed to un-earth in therapy

[squoosh]

C&A is ironically cool KingRollo, but only if you know you're being ironic...............or some such nonsense.

[mrsjay]

. I have a top on from C&A

is C n A even around these days

[mrsjay]

oh yes the ironic pish really annoys me, I am wearing this ironically that nick grimshaw says that all the time piss off nick

[NobodyPutsTomArcherInTheCorner]

Utter bliss sounds like it's straight from Malory Towers.

[Fluffybumblebee]

hipster explained in this video:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I

[WilsonFrickett]

limited has it, right there. Grown men (for it is usually men) on scooters may be tolerated. Grown men on scooters pitching for business, not so much.

I quite like a spot of utter bliss though boring on about coffee is not bliss. It's dull.

[ElleMcFearsome]

Possibly too much Mitford sisters in my early teens?